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7 reviews30 months ago
OZ rent to own ****
**** from OZRent to own. Or also know as JJ .No deposit. Delivery only pay insurance and tracker before vehicles leaves premises. Persons involved are Milsa 069 127 7015 ,Angelina Morgan. +27 63 727 0299 and Gorven Mclaren his number does not exist 015 3030761 once you Pay you never receive feedback and you also never receive your car. No one response to emails. Email Address ozrentals76@gmail.com. whatsapp numbers Whatsapp please dont remove this as I have had first hand expierance and don't want others to fall into the sane trap
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30 months ago
Vinnige Lenings
I started off trying to invest an amount of R1000 with a guarantee of R4500 with in 36 hours When after 36 hours they came back and told me my investment over sold and I need to pay R900 for taxes the a few hours later I got told to pay another R1000 refection fees and I would get R10 000.00 Well it is a week later and I still don't have a cent I been to the police station and laid a case: Case number 205/10/2023 and Capitec are also doing investigation a ***** case against Affinity investments and MR Ndabenhle Innococt Meyiywa cell number 0682133209 office suit 38 Palm Hotel Blvd. Umhlanga Ridge 4319 telephone number 0810875462 email affinityinvestmentworld@gmail.com
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31 months ago
Gert Smit ITC Clearance 072 403 8337
People please be careful of the following person. His name is Gert William Smit his ID is 94122306237041. He pretends that he can clear your ITC record but he is ****mer, he just takes your money and then you received nothing. I am not the only person that he ****med. Other persons have laid charges against him and I have done the same thing. His cell number is 072 403 8337 He uses Discovery bank account 16758131840 , he also prefers that you use send cash with a pin. He also used Grinrod bank. Which I think has now been frozen by other clients, so he has moved to discovery bank.
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32 months ago
GERT SMIT ITC
GERT SMIT ITC advertises that he can clear your name with an amount between R1500 and R3500.00 He also promises that it will take 3 to 4 days weekend included. He also says it is cleared forever. This is all a lie. Please people this is a ****. I know of a few persons that he ****med. Each one said they are going to make a case against him. I don't have an email but his cell number is 072 403 8337
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34 months ago
BINARYTRADEFXPRO & KATE KRUSE BINARY TRADE ****
Service received from Binarytradeprofx and Kate Kruse (Self Employed Contractor) (Fast & Successful Education) so many cellphone numbers: Cellphone numbers 076 477 4912,076 669 9115, 068 684 0087 are a **** or money laundering company, they are supposed to be companies that do Binary trading. It started with R500.00 to be paid and you could earn R5000.00 in 48 hours. 1. R500.00 paid 2/6/2023 to Wewers 2.Email received to say that I need to pay R2000.00 for fees. Which I had to pay into Moosa's account. 5/6/2023. 3. Then another email received that I need to pay R5000.00 for signal fees. To be paid into Moosa Gani's account FNB 62706482081. E-mailed received to say Brokerage % confirmed to live trading account. 6/6/2023 4.Then I had to pay another amount $160 = R3500.00 to make up for the shortfall on my withdrawal. Had to pay this into Moosa Gani's account. which i did R1500.00 8/6/2023 5. Then another R4 000.00. commission to be paid. 6. Then R2000.00 paid into African Bank JR DARIES Account number 1504470603 & R2 000.00 1/7/2023 into Jarryd's account. 20086307890 to make up the commission fees of R4 000.00 So in total R15 000.00 paid with empty promises and emails stating last payments. I have exported the chats and the emails so that you can see all the comments. The following people's bank accounts have been used: T Wewers R500.00 5/6/2023 Absa bank 4108416177, Moosa Gani. R1500.00 8/6/2023, R5 000.00 6/6/2023, R2 000.00 5/6/2023FNB 62706482081 Jarryd R2 000.00 1/7/2023 African bank 20086307890, JR Daries R2 000.00 2/7/2023 Bidvest account 28300409301 and then finally Liam Arendse R2 000.00 African Bank 20091660738 4/7/2023. Whatsapp from Kate Kruse 2023/06/05, 14:58 - Messages and calls are end-to-end encrypted. No one outside of this chat, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them. Tap to learn more. 2023/06/05, 14:58 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/05, 14:58 - Kate Kruse Investment: Kate kruse 2023/06/05, 14:58 - Hillary: Hi Kate 2023/06/05, 14:59 - Kate Kruse Investment: How are you 2023/06/05, 14:59 - Hillary: I'm fine thx and you? 2023/06/05, 14:59 - Kate Kruse Investment: Am blessed 2023/06/05, 14:59 - Kate Kruse Investment: Below are the details need to set up an account for you. You are to reply me with the following asap Full name: Country : street address : Zip code: Phone no: Email: Amount: 2023/06/05, 15:04 - Hillary: Ok Amount paid today R500 as per our Facebook chat. 2023/06/05, 15:05 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0417.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 15:05 - Kate Kruse Investment: het hulle dit ontvang? 2023/06/05, 15:06 - Kate Kruse Investment: is ons nog besig om dit te verwerk? 2023/06/05, 15:07 - Hillary: Hoe bedoel jy nou?. Ek vir jou gestuur. 2023/06/05, 15:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: ek sal jou op hoogte hou 2023/06/05, 16:19 - Hillary: Dankie 2023/06/05, 16:39 - Kate Kruse Investment: stuur vir my jou bankrekening? 2023/06/05, 16:46 - Hillary: Bank :Capitec account 2023/06/05, 16:46 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ok 2023/06/05, 16:46 - Hillary: thx 2023/06/05, 17:06 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/05, 17:07 - Hillary: Hi 2023/06/05, 17:07 - Kate Kruse Investment: het jy enige e-pos van die maatskappy ontvang 2023/06/05, 17:07 - Hillary: Sal gou kyk 2023/06/05, 17:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ok 2023/06/05, 17:09 - Hillary: Is dit van Bindary trade 2023/06/05, 17:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ja 2023/06/05, 17:11 - Hillary: Ok nou se hulle ek moet R2000 betaal sodat die geld kan wys op my rekening. Ek verstaan nie mooi nie. Nou moet ek R2000 betaal om R5000 te kry 2023/06/05, 17:17 - Kate Kruse Investment: sal die R2000 by jou wins gevoeg word? 2023/06/05, 17:18 - Hillary: So what se jy nou as ek dit R2000 betaal. Dan betaal hulle my R7000 2023/06/05, 17:19 - Kate Kruse Investment: R10,000 2023/06/05, 17:19 - Kate Kruse Investment: jou wins sal tot R10,000 verhoog word 2023/06/05, 17:22 - Hillary: Kate belowe hierdie is nie n **** ek kan nie bekoste om so veel geld te verloor nie. My man het kanker en ek het n broer wat breinskade het wat ek versorg. 2023/06/05, 17:23 - Kate Kruse Investment: glo my jy sal nie jou geld verloor nie? 2023/06/05, 17:23 - Hillary: Moet ek dit in die selfde rekening betaal en dan wanneer sal ek die geld in my rekening sien 2023/06/05, 17:24 - Kate Kruse Investment: laat ek hulle vra, wag asseblief 2023/06/05, 17:24 - Hillary: Ok 2023/06/05, 17:31 - Kate Kruse Investment: ACCOUNT HOLDER Moosa Gani BANK NAME FNB ACCOUNT NUMBER 62706482081 Reference: paxful15:32 2023/06/05, 17:32 - Kate Kruse Investment: gebruik hierdie besonderhede, gebruik asseblief die verwysing: paxful15:32 2023/06/05, 17:32 - Hillary: Ok en dan sal ek wanneer die geld sien 2023/06/05, 17:32 - Kate Kruse Investment: betaal asseblief dadelik 2023/06/05, 17:33 - Kate Kruse Investment: ja, ek belowe 2023/06/05, 17:33 - Kate Kruse Investment: maak onmiddellik betaling 2023/06/05, 17:36 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0473.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 17:37 - Hillary: Gedoen 2023/06/05, 17:42 - Kate Kruse Investment: dis onmiddellik betaling 2023/06/05, 17:42 - Hillary: Jip dit was 2023/06/05, 17:42 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ok 2023/06/05, 17:59 - Hillary: Skuus ek pla .Ok wat is die process van hier af?. Want ek sien nie die geld in my rekening. 2023/06/05, 18:15 - Kate Kruse Investment: werk ons nog daaraan? 2023/06/05, 18:17 - Hillary: Ok dankie 2023/06/05, 20:47 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/05, 20:48 - Kate Kruse Investment: het jy die boodskap van die maatskappy gekry 2023/06/05, 20:55 - Hillary: Hi wat is nou signal fees? 2023/06/05, 20:55 - Kate Kruse Investment: IMG-20230605-WA0542.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 20:55 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek het dit van die maatskappy gekry 2023/06/05, 20:56 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek weet nie wat die e-pos sê nie? 2023/06/05, 20:56 - Kate Kruse Investment: stuur vir my 'n kiekie daarvan? 2023/06/05, 20:56 - Hillary: Nee ek nog niks soos dit gesien nie. Ok 2023/06/05, 20:57 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0543.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 20:57 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0544.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 20:58 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0545.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 20:59 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy het reeds R15 000 wins gemaak 2023/06/05, 21:00 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy hoef nie bekommerd te wees oor die verlies van jou geld nie 2023/06/05, 21:00 - Kate Kruse Investment: hoeveel vir die seinfooi? 2023/06/05, 21:00 - Hillary: Ok dit klink goed . Daar is nie n bedrag op epos nie 2023/06/05, 21:02 - Kate Kruse Investment: antwoord hulle en vra hulle? 2023/06/05, 21:04 - Kate Kruse Investment: ?? 2023/06/05, 21:06 - Hillary: Ek nou n amtwoord op hulle epos gestuur 2023/06/05, 21:06 - Hillary: En gevra 2023/06/05, 21:09 - Kate Kruse Investment: wat het hulle gesê? 2023/06/05, 21:15 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/05, 21:17 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0547.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 21:17 - Hillary: IMG-20230605-WA0546.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/05, 21:19 - Kate Kruse Investment: sjoe, R30 000 is baie geld 2023/06/05, 21:20 - Hillary: Hierdie is n **** ek het R2500 in die water gegooi wat ek nie kon beskoste nie omdat ek desperate is om vir my man wn broer te sorg. Ek gaan nie die R5000 betaal nie. Ek het dit nie.Ek het jou gegloe en gebid hierdie is real. Ek het my kos geld gevat en die R2500 betaal. Maar hulle gaan net elke keer nog vra 2023/06/05, 21:22 - Kate Kruse Investment: ek weet hoe jy voel en ek verstaan werklik jou vrese, maar vrese gaan jou beperk en jou in dieselfde posisie laat as wat jy in die lewe is.... jy moet dapper wees om vrees te oorkom en besluite en dapper stappe te neem wat sal verander jou finansiële status vir goed 2023/06/05, 21:23 - Kate Kruse Investment: vertrou my asseblief hieroor, ek het my hele dag saam met die maatskappy gewerk? 2023/06/05, 21:24 - Hillary: As dit real is moet hulle my maar net my R15000 gee. Ek kan nie nog R5000 gee nie. Dit sal my laaste geld wees. 2023/06/05, 21:25 - Kate Kruse Investment: ja, dis jou laaste keer, ek belowe jou daarmee? 2023/06/05, 21:28 - Hillary: Hoekom het jy nie van die begin af gese dit gaan R7500 kos. Jou ad se R500 vir R5000. Ek kan nie my laaste geld wat ek het geen guarantee ek gaan geld trug kry 2023/06/05, 21:32 - Kate Kruse Investment: dit is vir my so onmenslik om iemand te bedrieg Ek is 'n Christen en 'n gelowige swendelaars is goddeloos en 100% boos, ek sal nie iemand wil bedrieg van sy swaarverdiende geld wat die persoon neer****tig en hartseer maak nie dit gaan slegte energie op my wees 2023/06/05, 21:37 - Hillary: Ek wil jou glo. Maar as ek die R5000 betaal en ek kry niks dan kan ek nie eers by die werk kom of kos koop.Eerste epos het gese betaal R2000 dan is die geld in jou rekening nou n ander storie. 2023/06/05, 21:37 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy is 100% veilig gewaarborg 2023/06/05, 21:38 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek kan jou verseker dat dit jou laaste betaling is 2023/06/05, 21:39 - Hillary: Dit gaan my laaste betaaling wees maar wat se waarborg is daar ek gaan my geld trug kry 2023/06/05, 21:40 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy is ten volle gewaarborg 100% veilig? 2023/06/05, 21:45 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy sal nie verloor vertrou my nie? 2023/06/05, 21:48 - Kate Kruse Investment: is jy daar 2023/06/05, 21:54 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/05, 21:57 - Hillary: Ek is hier maar ek is so bang. Want net as ek dink ok ek gaan geld kry is daar nog n epos vir nog geld. 2023/06/05, 21:58 - Kate Kruse Investment: nee, glo my, jy sal nie meer betaal nie? 2023/06/05, 22:02 - Hillary: Wat gaan ek vir my mense se as ek my laaste geld gee en ek kry niks trug Hoe gaan ek vir hulle sorg. Want die epos van R2000 het gese betaal dit en my geld so dadelik in my rekening wees en dit was nie so. Nou se dit betaal R5000 en dan gaan dit by jou profit getel word. Hulle se nie wanneer sal dis geld in my rekening wees nie 2023/06/05, 22:03 - Hillary: Dit se net wins gaan op 2023/06/05, 22:04 - Kate Kruse Investment: Onmiddellik maak jy die oordrag van die onttrekking jou geld sal binne die volgende 45 minute na jou eie bankrekening oorgeplaas word 2023/06/05, 22:05 - Hillary: As ek dit doen in watter rekening moet ek die geld in betaal. 2023/06/05, 22:06 - Kate Kruse Investment: ACCOUNT HOLDER Moosa Gani BANK NAME FNB ACCOUNT NUMBER 62706482081 Reference: paxful15:32 2023/06/05, 22:06 - Kate Kruse Investment: gebruik hierdie besonderhede, gebruik asseblief die verwysing: paxful15:32 2023/06/05, 22:07 - Kate Kruse Investment: maak onmiddellik betaling 2023/06/05, 22:07 - Hillary: Hoe lank werk jy saam die maatskapy 2023/06/05, 22:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: 8 jaar 2023/06/05, 22:09 - Hillary: Kate kan ek jou woord vat dat ek my geld sal kry? Binne 45 min 2023/06/05, 22:11 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ja 2023/06/05, 22:11 - Hillary: En dat daar geen ander kostes sal wees nie 2023/06/05, 22:11 - Kate Kruse Investment: my woord hieroor vat? 2023/06/05, 22:13 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ja 2023/06/05, 22:14 - Hillary: Ek is bang 2023/06/05, 22:15 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy hoef nie bang te wees nie, want jy sal nie jou geld verloor nie 2023/06/05, 22:24 - Hillary: Maar gaan ek nou R30 000 kry 2023/06/05, 22:24 - Hillary: Sonder ander kostes 2023/06/05, 22:25 - Kate Kruse Investment: ja ek kan jou dit verseker? 2023/06/05, 22:35 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/05, 22:40 - Hillary: Capitec will he ek moet n selfie neem om te bevestige dit is ek maar hy kom trug elke keer on bevestige. So sal moet dit eers uitsort. Ek probeer 2023/06/05, 22:42 - Kate Kruse Investment: maar, dit sal nie lank neem nie? 2023/06/05, 22:56 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/05, 23:05 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/05, 23:09 - Kate Kruse Investment: is jy nog daar 2023/06/05, 23:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/05, 23:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek wil hê die maatskappy moet jou werk voltooi voor môreoggend 2023/06/05, 23:20 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/05, 23:21 - Kate Kruse Investment: OK goeie nag 2023/06/05, 23:22 - Hillary: Ek kry nie capitec om te verify nie. Sal vroeg more oggend gou probeer uitsort 2023/06/05, 23:22 - Kate Kruse Investment: Oka6 2023/06/05, 23:22 - Kate Kruse Investment: alright 2023/06/06, 06:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: Goeie more 2023/06/06, 07:28 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/06, 07:37 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 07:38 - Kate Kruse Investment: het jy die deposito kon maak 2023/06/06, 07:47 - Kate Kruse Investment: is jy daar? 2023/06/06, 08:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: hoekom antwoord jy nie terug nie 2023/06/06, 08:11 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 08:22 - Kate Kruse Investment: die maatskappy het my sopas ge****ak, gesê hoekom het jy nie die betaling gemaak nie? 2023/06/06, 08:24 - Kate Kruse Investment: sê jy het 45 minute om die betaling te maak 2023/06/06, 08:33 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 08:34 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 08:40 - Hillary: Soos ek jou gister aand gese het capitec kon nie my selfie bevestig nie. Sal nou weer probeer 2023/06/06, 08:42 - Kate Kruse Investment: probeer asseblief, want die maatskappy wil verwerk met jou Trading? 2023/06/06, 08:42 - Kate Kruse Investment: vir jou om jou wins te kry? 2023/06/06, 08:44 - Hillary: As hy nou duur gaan wanneer sal die R30 000 in my rekening wys 2023/06/06, 08:44 - Kate Kruse Investment: 45 minute tyd? 2023/06/06, 08:53 - Hillary: IMG-20230606-WA0155.jpg (file attached) Dit is die boodskap as ek weer Moosa wil betaal 2023/06/06, 08:55 - Kate Kruse Investment: laat my versoek vir 'n nuwe bankbesonderhede 2023/06/06, 08:56 - Hillary: Ok maar dit maak my bekommerd as ek elke keer in n ander rekening moet betaal 2023/06/06, 08:57 - Kate Kruse Investment: so hoe het jy die eerste betaling gedoen 2023/06/06, 08:58 - Hillary: Hy het gewerk sonder enige issue dit is nou net toe ek die 2de betaaling aan hom wil maak dan gee hy daai boodskap 2023/06/06, 08:59 - Hillary: So ek weet nie hoekom hy so maak nie 2023/06/06, 09:02 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek vra die maatskappy hulle sê jy kan net ****ant gestuur doen? 2023/06/06, 09:02 - Kate Kruse Investment: doen asseblief ****ant gestuur 2023/06/06, 09:02 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 09:12 - Kate Kruse Investment: kon jy dit nou doen? 2023/06/06, 09:13 - Hillary: Ek probeer in kom op die bank. Maar as jy cash send dan moet n mense n pin skep en dit vir die person stuur. So vir wie gaan ek dit stuur 2023/06/06, 09:15 - Kate Kruse Investment: stuur vir my die betalingsbewys 2023/06/06, 09:15 - Kate Kruse Investment: of jy kan dit aanstuur na die maatskappy se e-pos 2023/06/06, 09:25 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/06, 09:26 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 09:34 - Kate Kruse Investment: is jy daar 2023/06/06, 09:35 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 09:44 - Hillary: In meeting till 11 2023/06/06, 09:44 - Kate Kruse Investment: Alright 2023/06/06, 11:16 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/06, 12:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 12:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: het jy dit nou betaal? 2023/06/06, 12:11 - Kate Kruse Investment: met ****ant stuur 2023/06/06, 12:12 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 12:25 - Hillary: IMG-20230606-WA0420.jpg (file attached) Ok hy het nou gewerk met immediate pay so nou bid ek jy is reg dat ek binne 45mim my geld sal kry 2023/06/06, 12:27 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ja 2023/06/06, 12:28 - Kate Kruse Investment: Sal ek jou later weer ****ak? 2023/06/06, 12:30 - Hillary: Ekk het nou my laaste geld wat ek het oorbetaal so ek bid dit is nien ****. 2023/06/06, 12:36 - Kate Kruse Investment: nee, dit is nie 'n bedrogspul nie 2023/06/06, 13:59 - Hillary: Wat gebuier nou dit is al 14h00 en nog niks gekry nie 2023/06/06, 14:01 - Kate Kruse Investment: hulle werk nog daaraan, wag asseblief? 2023/06/06, 14:54 - Hillary: Ok dit is nou al amper 15h00 hoe lank nog 2023/06/06, 15:08 - Hillary: ??? 2023/06/06, 15:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: wees asseblief eerlik met my 2023/06/06, 15:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: hulle verwerk nog 2023/06/06, 16:41 - Hillary: Hi einge nuus 2023/06/06, 16:44 - Hillary: ?? Wat bedoel jy met wees assblief eerlik. Ek was nog die hele tyd eerlik met jou. 2023/06/06, 17:06 - Kate Kruse Investment: laat ek hulle ****ak 2023/06/06, 17:19 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/06, 17:19 - Hillary: Hi 2023/06/06, 17:19 - Kate Kruse Investment: het jy die e-pos ontvang 2023/06/06, 17:19 - Hillary: Watter epos 2023/06/06, 17:21 - Kate Kruse Investment: kyk asseblief 2023/06/06, 17:25 - Hillary: IMG-20230606-WA0561.jpg (file attached) Jy het belowe daar is nie nog om te betaal nie nou moet ek weer betaal. Ek het jou gisteraand gese dit is my kos geld. 160 usd waar moet ek dit kry. Wat gaan ek nou doen. Ek het nou niks. Jy praat van eerlikheid. Ek wonder wie was nie eerlik hier 2023/06/06, 17:25 - Hillary: IMG-20230606-WA0558.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/06, 17:25 - Hillary: IMG-20230606-WA0560.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/06, 17:25 - Hillary: IMG-20230606-WA0559.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/06, 17:28 - Hillary: Ek het jou gese ek is bang jy het belowe. Wat gaan ek nou doen. Ek moes geweet het dit was to good to be true 2023/06/06, 17:31 - Hillary: Ek hoop jy slaap goed vanaand. Jy se jy is n christen. Ek kan nie eers my familie kos gee hierdie maand 2023/06/06, 17:35 - Kate Kruse Investment: is ek regtig jammer dat ek nie daaroor ingelig is nie? 2023/06/06, 17:37 - Kate Kruse Investment: jou wins reeds verhoog 2023/06/06, 17:37 - Kate Kruse Investment: IMG-20230606-WA0565.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/06, 17:37 - Hillary: Wat beteken dit 2023/06/06, 17:37 - Kate Kruse Investment: hulle sê daar is dit die laaste betaling 2023/06/06, 17:43 - Hillary: Ek het dit nie. So ek het R7500 in die water gegooi omdat ek vir jou geluister het hoe jy my belowe. Ek sal nie my geld verloor. Hulle is ***** en jy moes dit geweet het as jy 8 jaar daar werk. Jy sal meer verloor as wat ek tussen gister vandag verloor het want julle het alles by my gevat. Ek was desperate dit is hoekom ek jou geglo het. Ek jou gese ek is bang. Weer wens het jy belowe. So ek dink jy is deel van die ****. As jy nie is nie sall jy my geld vir my trug kry. Ek gaan niks weer betaal want ek kan nie. Ek kan nie eers vir my gesin kos gee 2023/06/06, 17:45 - Hillary: Waar sien jy dit. 2023/06/06, 17:46 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek verstaan jy is kwaad vir my maar ek gee jou my woord ek sal hierna glimlagte in jou gesig sit, vertrou my daarop, ek weet dit gaan vir jou baie moeilik wees om my weer te vertrou maar ek sal doen wat ek jou belowe? 2023/06/06, 17:51 - Hillary: Wel ek kan niks betaal. Ek is kwaad vir myself dat ek so dom kon wees. Ek huil oor die is nie kwaad. En weet jy ek kan nie eers vir my familie se hiervan so ek moet hier alleen dra. En n plan maak om hulle kos te gee. Ek weet nie wat jy gaan doen om dit reg te maak nie. Maar op hierdie oomblik kan ek niks meer glo 2023/06/06, 17:53 - Kate Kruse Investment: sien ek weet dis baie moeilik, die 160 usd is R3500 2023/06/06, 17:54 - Hillary: Ek het dit nie 2023/06/06, 17:54 - Kate Kruse Investment: Sodra jy dit betaal, sal enigiets weer normaal wees 2023/06/06, 17:55 - Kate Kruse Investment: ok, laat dit so doen ek sal jou help met R1500 Ek wil net hê jy moet vandag jou wins kry, sodat jy jou gesin kan help? 2023/06/06, 17:56 - Hillary: Ek gaan niks meer betaal. Ek het dit nie. 2023/06/06, 17:57 - Kate Kruse Investment: vertrou my asseblief hieroor, as dit die laaste keer is? 2023/06/06, 17:59 - Kate Kruse Investment: vertrou my asseblief, as dit die laaste keer is? 2023/06/06, 18:00 - Kate Kruse Investment: ek sal jou weer gelukkig maak 2023/06/06, 18:00 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/06, 18:09 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek belowe om my foute reg te stel? 2023/06/06, 18:19 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek belowe om dit met jou op te maak? 2023/06/06, 18:21 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek weet jy is moeg daarvoor om saam met ons te werk, maar asseblief, ek het net vir oulaas jou vertroue nodig? 2023/06/06, 20:50 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/06, 21:04 - Kate Kruse Investment: antwoord my asseblief terug 2023/06/07, 06:49 - Hillary: Wat wil jy he moet ek se 2023/06/07, 06:50 - Kate Kruse Investment: asseblief 🙏 glo my as ek vir jou sê dat jy nie weer meer sal betaal nie 2023/06/07, 06:52 - Kate Kruse Investment: laat dit so doen dat jy my glo, as jy meer betaal sal ek geen ander keuse hê as om hulle te sê om al jou geld terug te betaal nie en ek sal ook die werk verlaat? 2023/06/07, 06:57 - Hillary: Al hoe daai geld gaan inkom is betaal jy die uitstaande en dan wanneer dit in kom gee ek dit vir jou trug. Die bietjie geld wat ek oor het kan ek nie ook in die water gooi nie. As jy daai verskill betaal en daai geld kom in sal ek jou dit dubbel trug gee. 2023/06/07, 06:58 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek het gesê ek sal jou help met R1500 jy sal net R2000 betaal 2023/06/07, 06:59 - Kate Kruse Investment: ek wil weer gelukkig wees 2023/06/07, 06:59 - Hillary: Wat gaan dit my help as jy jou werk verlaat en ek sit nog steeds sonder geld. 2023/06/07, 07:00 - Kate Kruse Investment: want, as hulle jou nie betaal het nie? 2023/06/07, 07:00 - Hillary: Ek kan nie. Jou se my geld is op. 2023/06/07, 07:02 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek weet jy is baie bang oor die belofte wat ek al voorheen aan jou belowe is, maar hierdie een is 'n ernstige een? 2023/06/07, 07:06 - Kate Kruse Investment: ?? 2023/06/07, 07:07 - Hillary: Sorry ek kan nie nog geld gee nie. Vertrou is gebreuk. As jy wil he ek moet jou vertrou gaan jy my met daai geld help sodat die geld inkom en ek jou trug betaal. Ek belowe jy sal jou geld tryg kry as hulle die geld inbetaal. Ek is en kan nie gelukkig wees oor my geld wat ek verloor het nie. En jy sal jy gelukkig wees? 2023/06/07, 07:08 - Kate Kruse Investment: nee nee, jy het nie jou geld verloor nie 2023/06/07, 07:09 - Kate Kruse Investment: hou op om so iets te sê 2023/06/07, 07:09 - Kate Kruse Investment: ek is hier om jou te help 2023/06/07, 07:09 - Kate Kruse Investment: maar die probleem is dat ek jou net met R1500 kan help 2023/06/07, 07:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: Sodra jy die R2000 betaal, sal jou geld ten volle inbetaal word 2023/06/07, 07:10 - Kate Kruse Investment: sê daar dat dit jou laaste betaling is 2023/06/07, 07:11 - Hillary: Al hoe hierdie opgelos gaan wees is jy gaan daai geld betaal. Ek het niks meer geld om te betaal. Die R1500 is nie genoeg nie om die verskill op te maak nie. 2023/06/07, 07:11 - Hillary: Ek kan ongeluk hulle nie vertrou of glo nie 2023/06/07, 07:12 - Kate Kruse Investment: jy moet, om jou wins te kan kry? 2023/06/07, 07:12 - Hillary: My vertrou is gebreuk met jou en hulle. 2023/06/07, 07:12 - Kate Kruse Investment: want ek weet teen vandag sal jy jou wins kry 2023/06/07, 07:13 - Hillary: Sorry ek het nie meer geld nie. 2023/06/07, 07:14 - Hillary: Jy gaan n plan moet maak 2023/06/07, 07:14 - Kate Kruse Investment: glo my asseblief 2023/06/07, 07:14 - Kate Kruse Investment: probeer ek dinge met jou opmaak? 2023/06/07, 07:16 - Kate Kruse Investment: is dit ons laaste kans? 2023/06/07, 07:16 - Kate Kruse Investment: daarom wil ek jou help? 2023/06/07, 07:42 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/07, 07:45 - Kate Kruse Investment: IMG-20230607-WA0048.jpg (file attached) ek weet jy vertrou my nie, maar ek kan vir jou lieg met die bybel glo my jy sal nie jou geld verloor nie 2023/06/07, 07:45 - Kate Kruse Investment: Onmiddellik maak jy die oordrag van die onttrekking jou geld sal binne die volgende 50 minute na jou eie bankrekening oorgeplaas word 2023/06/07, 07:46 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/07, 08:36 - Kate Kruse Investment: Hallo 2023/06/07, 09:17 - Kate Kruse Investment: Missed voice call 2023/06/07, 11:18 - Hillary: Se hulle moet net my geld trug gee wat ek betaal het .ek het nie geld om die uitstande bedrag te betaal nie Of jy moet my help en dan kry jy dubble trug 2023/06/07, 11:53 - Kate Kruse Investment: maar jy genereer reeds wins, probeer my asseblief verstaan? 2023/06/07, 12:02 - Hillary: Ek verstaan maar het nie die r3500 om te betaal nie. 2023/06/07, 12:14 - Kate Kruse Investment: betaal R2000, ek sal jou help met R1500 2023/06/07, 12:15 - Hillary: ek het dit nie 2023/06/07, 12:16 - Kate Kruse Investment: Ek is tevrede met jou, want dit is jou laaste kans vir jou om jou wins te kry? 2023/06/07, 12:32 - Hillary: Ek is nie tevrede nie. Maar nou ja daar is niks wat ek kan doen. Behalwe om hierdie hele bedroom spull op hello Peter te plaas. Daar is gese betaal R500 en jy kan R5000 maak. Niemand het gepraat van ander fooie nie wat R7000 beloop het tot nou. En nou soek julle nog R3500. So op die einde gaan ek R11000 betaal het wat met n advertensie begin het van R500. So as jy nie will he ek moet dit op hello Peter sit. Sal jy my geld trug kry of sorg vir die R3500 wat hulle nou nog soek. Daar is nie in 1 van die mails gese dat exchange rates gaan my betaaling beinflud nie. Eers to hulle R7500 uit my het toe kom exchange rate issue in. Volgens my kennis kan jy enige bedrag oor betaal aan n person en ja as dit exchange rate veroorsak dat die person minder kry dan is dit n person in sa se problem dat hulle minder kry. 2023/06/08, 15:00 - Messages and calls are end-to-end encrypted. No one outside of this chat, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them. Tap to learn more. 2023/06/08, 15:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hi 2023/06/08, 15:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Is Kate kruse 2023/06/08, 15:01 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I explain it to you on Facebook please check your Facebook? 2023/06/08, 15:19 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/08, 15:33 - Hillary: Ok I saw you said you updated your phone. I appolgise for yesterday but I'm stressed out about money everyone is looking to me. If I get R2000 from someone will you still help me to get the funds. 2023/06/08, 15:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes, I promise you that? 2023/06/08, 15:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I assure you that you will get it? 2023/06/08, 15:35 - Hillary: Ok so how will we do this. Will the amount be different because of exchange rates today? When will it be in my account. 2023/06/08, 15:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: 30 minutes time? 2023/06/08, 15:37 - Hillary: Ok so I pay R2000 with that reference and you will pay the R1500.Then I will refund you as promised. Would I use the same account as the R500? 2023/06/08, 15:37 - Kate Kruse Investments New: ACCOUNT HOLDER Moosa Gani BANK NAME FNB ACCOUNT NUMBER 62706482081 Reference: paxful15:32 2023/06/08, 15:37 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Please make immediately payment 2023/06/08, 15:38 - Hillary: Ok that is for the R2000. Will you then also pay into thar same account the R1500. 2023/06/08, 15:38 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes? 2023/06/08, 15:39 - Hillary: Ok and what account will I use to refund you 2023/06/08, 15:39 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Don't worry when you are ready I will send you the account? 2023/06/08, 15:40 - Hillary: Do I send the pop to you or to the email 2023/06/08, 15:40 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Send me the proof? 2023/06/08, 15:41 - Hillary: Ok I'm trusting you on this. Please help me 2023/06/08, 15:41 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I will help you out? 2023/06/08, 15:42 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0443.jpg (file attached) Ok it is done. 2023/06/08, 15:43 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/08, 16:26 - Hillary: Ek het van my vriende van jou vertel hulle is baie keen om dit te doen as dit vir my werk 2023/06/08, 16:29 - Kate Kruse Investments New: sjoe dit is wonderlik om te hoor? 2023/06/08, 16:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hi 2023/06/08, 16:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Am really sorry 😞 😔 2023/06/08, 16:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: The company said they need the R1500 2023/06/08, 16:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: And as I check my husband use it in something else 2023/06/08, 16:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I should have tell you before am sorry about that? 2023/06/08, 16:36 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Am so angry about it? 2023/06/08, 16:36 - Kate Kruse Investments New: And I told him that I want to help you with it before? 2023/06/08, 16:36 - Hillary: Kate please tell me the truth is this a **** 2023/06/08, 16:37 - Kate Kruse Investments New: It's a real deal not a **** 2023/06/08, 16:38 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Why we I **** you with your hard earn money? 2023/06/08, 16:39 - Hillary: People have ****med me before. As I said I lent the money so if this does not come off I'm in real deep **** 2023/06/08, 16:40 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, I understand you but this is the real deal not a **** 2023/06/08, 16:41 - Hillary: Ok so if I make a plan for the 1500 I'll have my money by 17h30 2023/06/08, 16:42 - Hillary: Promise? 2023/06/08, 16:42 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Promise? 2023/06/08, 16:44 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0450.jpg (file attached) Ok this is my last money I now have r500 left if this goes wrong 2023/06/08, 16:44 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Nothing we go wrong 2023/06/08, 16:57 - Hillary: Ok so everything is now paid from my side. Are they happy to pay now 2023/06/08, 17:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes 2023/06/08, 17:21 - Hillary: Ok so where are we in the process it is 30min from last payment 2023/06/08, 17:22 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/08, 17:22 - Hillary: Please let me know how long before I get the payment 2023/06/08, 17:33 - Hillary: Please give me an update 2023/06/08, 17:43 - Hillary: Kate my nerves are finished 2023/06/08, 17:47 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hi 2023/06/08, 17:48 - Kate Kruse Investments New: The company ask me to tell you to download trust wallet? 2023/06/08, 17:48 - Hillary: Ok where do I get that play store 2023/06/08, 17:48 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes 2023/06/08, 17:49 - Hillary: Ok I found it and then what 2023/06/08, 17:50 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Create a account on it? 2023/06/08, 17:57 - Hillary: Ok I have created an account now what 2023/06/08, 17:58 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 17:59 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0460.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You have money on it? 2023/06/08, 18:00 - Hillary: No 2023/06/08, 18:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I can't see it clearly 2023/06/08, 18:01 - Hillary: I have an option to send , receive,buy,swap 2023/06/08, 18:03 - Hillary: When I choose receive I need to select a type 2023/06/08, 18:03 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0494.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:03 - Hillary: I don't understand 2023/06/08, 18:04 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:04 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0500.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:05 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0534.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:05 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:06 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0545.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:06 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0546.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:06 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:07 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0548.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No 2023/06/08, 18:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Go back 2023/06/08, 18:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Just click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:08 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0556.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0563.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Just click on it and send me a screenshot 2023/06/08, 18:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Don't click on anything else 2023/06/08, 18:10 - Hillary: That is what comes up if I choose ethereum 2023/06/08, 18:10 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0572.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:12 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You will see import ethereum 2023/06/08, 18:13 - Hillary: I don't see import anywhere 2023/06/08, 18:14 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0584.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:14 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:15 - Hillary: Where do I find that 2023/06/08, 18:17 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0585.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:18 - Hillary: I found this under settings 2023/06/08, 18:20 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0591.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:21 - Hillary: Ok I just sent it 2023/06/08, 18:21 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0585.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:21 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0595.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:22 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:23 - Hillary: I only have dots next to the main wallet at the top I have + 2023/06/08, 18:23 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes do it 2023/06/08, 18:24 - Hillary: Do you want me to select the + 2023/06/08, 18:24 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on i already had an account 2023/06/08, 18:25 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0613.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:25 - Hillary: Ok 2023/06/08, 18:26 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ethereum 2023/06/08, 18:28 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Go to address 2023/06/08, 18:28 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0614.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:28 - Hillary: Ok I now have screen that won't allow screenshot but it says 2023/06/08, 18:28 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0615.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:29 - Hillary: Ok 2023/06/08, 18:29 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Click on it and send me a screenshot of it 2023/06/08, 18:29 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0616.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: This message was deleted 2023/06/08, 18:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Paste it there? 2023/06/08, 18:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: And click on import 2023/06/08, 18:31 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230608-WA0617.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:31 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Add it there 2023/06/08, 18:31 - Kate Kruse Investments New: And click on import 2023/06/08, 18:31 - Hillary: IMG-20230608-WA0618.jpg (file attached) 2023/06/08, 18:32 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Wow you got your profit 2023/06/08, 18:32 - Kate Kruse Investments New: That is nice 2023/06/08, 18:32 - Hillary: Ok but what do I do now as it says it is a watch only wallet 2023/06/08, 18:33 - Hillary: How do I stop or trf it to my account 2023/06/08, 18:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: How much is there? 2023/06/08, 18:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: It's up to R80,000 2023/06/08, 18:35 - Hillary: I have a option to receive or buy which do I choose 2023/06/08, 18:36 - Kate Kruse Investments New: ?? 2023/06/08, 18:37 - Hillary: Op the screenshot then you can sew the Amount 2023/06/08, 18:38 - Hillary: Open 2023/06/08, 18:38 - Hillary: Do I choose receive 2023/06/08, 18:39 - Hillary: Looks like $1850 2023/06/08, 18:43 - Hillary: ??? 2023/06/08, 19:01 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/08, 19:01 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes 2023/06/08, 19:06 - Hillary: How do I get the fund to me 2023/06/08, 19:07 - Kate Kruse Investments New: The company just contact me that you need to pay R2000 to be able to withdraw it directly to your bank account 2023/06/08, 19:07 - Kate Kruse Investments New: The funds is already there? 2023/06/08, 19:09 - Hillary: You all said that r3500 would be the last payment now another amount which I don't have 2023/06/08, 19:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: That is for withdraw fee? 2023/06/08, 19:10 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You can't withdraw it without that money 2023/06/08, 19:11 - Hillary: Kate I told you that I was browsing the R3500 where must I now get the R2000 2023/06/08, 19:11 - Hillary: Where is the funds 2023/06/08, 19:12 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Once you pay it you will be able to withdraw all your profit? 2023/06/08, 19:12 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Is already in your wallet 2023/06/08, 19:15 - Hillary: Kate please I don't have r2000 and all of you confirmed r3500 was the last payment that I would need to make. Now another story 2023/06/08, 19:20 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No no no this is your withdrawal fee 2023/06/08, 19:21 - Hillary: I don't have any more money. I have R500 2023/06/08, 19:21 - Hillary: I told you 2023/06/08, 19:23 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Pay it 2023/06/08, 19:25 - Hillary: I don't have it 2023/06/08, 19:25 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Pay the R500 2023/06/08, 19:26 - Hillary: What will that help you told me they need r2000 2023/06/08, 19:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes, pay it first 2023/06/08, 19:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: To show that you are looking for the money 2023/06/08, 19:39 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Are you there 2023/06/08, 19:46 - Hillary: I'm sick to my stomach. I gave my last money trusting you and there last email that the R3500 would be the last funds that I would need to pay. I cant get another R2000 and I can't pay my last R500 as that is all I have. The person I lent the money from want his money tomorrow. You told me that I would have my money in 60mins. Now another story to get my money. I am disappointed worried how I'm going to explain this mess. How will I get through the next week not even thinking about the month. I want to cry because I was so stupid to trust. They can deduct the r2000 from the profit and just give me the rest 2023/06/08, 19:48 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Am really sorry about that? 2023/06/08, 19:50 - Hillary: I can't believe that you are at this company for I years and you don't know the process because if you did you should have told me from the beginning 2023/06/08, 19:58 - Kate Kruse Investments New: 😭 2023/06/09, 15:13 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hi 2023/06/09, 16:04 - Hillary: Hi 2023/06/09, 16:04 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Have you been able to get any? 2023/06/09, 16:07 - Hillary: Nope 2023/06/09, 21:44 - Hillary: I'm not going to make the payment I have been **** to so many times. For me to trust you guys again you will have to do something giving a guarantee that I will receive the money in my bank account as promised from the beginning or pay some of the money at least r10 000.00 and then I can pay the r2000. Else I'm going to take the matter further. Because I can't find any details about your company on the web. So it seems to be a ****. Send me your company registration information So that I can verify that you are a true broker 2023/06/09, 21:46 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hey, why will you say it a **** 2023/06/09, 21:47 - Kate Kruse Investments New: But the funds Is already in your wallet? 2023/06/09, 21:47 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Why we I **** you 2023/06/09, 21:47 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You have to understand me 2023/06/09, 22:11 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Are you there? 2023/06/09, 22:12 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/09, 22:14 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Why are you not replying back 2023/06/09, 22:16 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/10, 07:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Good morning 2023/06/10, 07:43 - Hillary: If it was in my wallet account I should be able to with draw it. It is in a view only wallet. If it is in my wallet your company should have no further hold on my wallet. 2023/06/10, 07:44 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes, it's because you have not paid the withdrawal fee 2023/06/10, 07:44 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Once you pay the withdraw fee you will be able to withdraw it 2023/06/10, 07:46 - Hillary: I don't believe that I'll get it. Because the last email said that that be the last payment and now the are looking for more money 2023/06/10, 07:47 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Just R2000 for the withdraw fee, not more money 2023/06/10, 07:57 - Hillary: When you said that I would get my money after paying the R3500 you would resign if I don't get my money. You are not resigning. Now you are asking for more money Give me the company details so I can see that it is a registered company because of now I don't believe it is a legitimate company 2023/06/10, 07:58 - Kate Kruse Investments New: After all that you have pay you still not believe the company 2023/06/10, 07:58 - Kate Kruse Investments New: And you know that you will get your profit after the one? 2023/06/10, 07:59 - Hillary: Nope I don't because I believed you and you failed me. Why do you not want to give me the companies details 2023/06/10, 08:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, I can't? 2023/06/10, 08:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: That is private 2023/06/10, 08:01 - Hillary: I don't know if I'm going to get my profit because up to now everything has been promises that are not fufilled 2023/06/10, 08:01 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes, you will believe me? 2023/06/10, 08:03 - Hillary: Exactly why I don't believe anymore a legitimate company would not be afraid to give there details 2023/06/10, 08:04 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, we don't give our business details 2023/06/10, 08:04 - Hillary: No I don't believe anymore because believing you up to now has cost me R11000 2023/06/10, 08:05 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok, take my word on this, you won't pay again and you won't lose your money? 2023/06/10, 08:05 - Hillary: With no evidence that I'm going to get my money ever promise you made has been broken 2023/06/10, 08:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes, there is evidence because its shown in your wallet 2023/06/10, 08:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: It can be withdrawn once you pay the withdrawn fee 2023/06/10, 08:16 - Hillary: Well then it should be easy enough for your company to deduct the R2000 from my profit and pay me my money 2023/06/10, 08:17 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, is already there? 2023/06/10, 08:18 - Hillary: They have all of the fund still in their hands so it is not my money yet. If it was and I wanted to with and I had to pay a fee the exchange would charge me 2023/06/10, 08:19 - Hillary: They are still holding the money at this stage I don't have access to it so it is not mine 2023/06/10, 08:20 - Hillary: It's not mine yet They still have access to it 2023/06/10, 08:21 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, you won't understand, the way the company pay profit before that is after before they will take the fee, but some people won't pay back that is why the company want the fee first before profits? 2023/06/10, 08:23 - Hillary: But if they take the fees of before paying me they won't loose their money 2023/06/10, 08:24 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, it's doesn't work like that? 2023/06/10, 08:24 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You already know that? 2023/06/10, 08:26 - Hillary: No I don't know anything about your company and all they have done up to now is empty promises 2023/06/10, 08:26 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, this time is not empty promise 2023/06/10, 08:27 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You will surely have it? 2023/06/10, 08:28 - Hillary: Give me 1 persons details that has done business with you and has received their money. And that person would need to show me what they paid and what they received. I know you won't because you will say it is private 2023/06/10, 08:29 - Hillary: The next thing that is going to happen after I pay this R2000 you are going to tell me to pay it from wallet into your account then you will pay me at another cost 2023/06/10, 08:32 - Hillary: ??? 2023/06/10, 08:32 - Kate Kruse Investments New: You already know that my company is private company 2023/06/10, 08:33 - Kate Kruse Investments New: We don't give details to anyone 2023/06/10, 08:33 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, no no, you seem not to understand me at all? 2023/06/10, 08:34 - Hillary: Exactly because it is a ****. Else you would not be scared you give your companies details 2023/06/10, 08:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I already told you that is already in your wallet just pay the fee and withdraw it to your bank account 2023/06/10, 08:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I don't like it, when you say it a **** 2023/06/10, 08:35 - Hillary: In which account would I need to pay this fees if I decided to do it 2023/06/10, 08:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: If its a **** I would have blocked you? 2023/06/10, 08:44 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok, I will send you 2023/06/10, 08:46 - Kate Kruse Investments New: ACCOUNT HOLDER Moosa Gani BANK NAME FNB ACCOUNT NUMBER 62706482081 Reference: paxful15:32 2023/06/10, 08:46 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Please make immediately payment 2023/06/10, 08:47 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/10, 08:55 - Hillary: This amount in the wallet keeps changing so it seems it is still trading 2023/06/10, 08:56 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Yes, it's because bitcoin high and low 2023/06/10, 09:20 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Are you there? 2023/06/10, 09:20 - Hillary: I was in the shower. 2023/06/10, 09:20 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Okay 2023/06/10, 09:21 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Have you made the payment 2023/06/10, 09:24 - Kate Kruse Investments New: ? 2023/06/10, 10:11 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/10, 10:13 - Hillary: I told you yesterday u had to lend the R3500 so I need to make another plan and still working on that 2023/06/10, 10:13 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/10, 11:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/10, 12:37 - Kate Kruse Investments New: is jy daar? 2023/06/10, 13:17 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/10, 14:52 - Kate Kruse Investments New: is jy besig 2023/06/10, 16:03 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/10, 18:19 - Hillary: Ek kry niemand wat my nou kan help nie. Weet nie wat gaan ek doen nie 2023/06/10, 18:42 - Kate Kruse Investments New: maar moet jy vind? 2023/06/10, 20:03 - Hillary: Ja ek jou gese ek daai ander geleen. So probeer pla maak 2023/06/10, 21:19 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/11, 19:42 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/11, 20:04 - Kate Kruse Investments New: die maatskappy het reeds die maatskappy se bankbesonderhede verander 2023/06/11, 20:05 - Kate Kruse Investments New: moet asseblief nie daardie besonderhede gebruik nie 2023/06/12, 10:12 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/12, 13:23 - Hillary: At dr with husband 2023/06/12, 13:24 - Kate Kruse Investments New: jammer daaroor ek is regtig jammer 2023/06/12, 13:25 - Kate Kruse Investments New: die maatskappy het nie opgehou om my vir die R2000 van jou te vra nie? 2023/06/12, 13:27 - Hillary: Ek jou gese ek kom nie reg om dit te leen en ek het wat rk geleen het vir julle gese. So ek het tyd nodig om dit te source. Hoekom het julle bank nommers verander? 2023/06/12, 13:28 - Kate Kruse Investments New: daardie bank is reeds vol 2023/06/12, 13:29 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Sodra jy wil betaal, vra die bankbesonderhede 2023/06/12, 13:29 - Hillary: Ok 2023/06/13, 14:45 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/13, 18:48 - Kate Kruse Investments New: hoekom antwoord jy nie terug nie 2023/06/13, 20:11 - Hillary: Besig 2023/06/13, 21:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/13, 21:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: ons wag nog vir die R2000 deposito 2023/06/14, 07:34 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Goeie more 2023/06/14, 08:03 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/14, 09:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: antwoord my asseblief terug 2023/06/14, 16:31 - Hillary: Ja ek weet maar ek jou gese ek het dit nie. En ek kan nie weer leen nie daai ou is kwaad omdat ek hom belowe het ek sou die volgende dag betaal maar soos jy weet het julle julle story verander van laaste betaal 2023/06/14, 17:31 - Kate Kruse Investments New: maar ek het reeds vir jou gesê dat jy hierdie een sal ontvang? 2023/06/14, 20:04 - Hillary: Dit maak nie saak ek her nie nou geld en niemand wil my help so ja. Maand einde gaan seker eers n opposing wees ek weet nie. Ek klaar R11000 verloor so ja 2023/06/14, 21:07 - Kate Kruse Investments New: jy bedoel einde van die maand 2023/06/14, 21:07 - Kate Kruse Investments New: ons speel nie met jou nie 2023/06/14, 21:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: moet jy 'n manier vind om dit te kry? 2023/06/14, 21:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: want die maatskappy sal nie die einde van die maand neem nie 2023/06/15, 07:28 - Hillary: Ek het dit nie so ja ek gaan seker dit verloor 2023/06/15, 07:39 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Nee 2023/06/15, 08:04 - Hillary: Ek het nie eers geld vir kos nie. 2023/06/15, 08:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/15, 08:09 - Hillary: So ek weet nie wat kan jy doen nie sodat ons daai geld kan kry 2023/06/15, 08:10 - Kate Kruse Investments New: dit is die enigste manier vir my om jou te help om die geld te kry 2023/06/15, 08:11 - Kate Kruse Investments New: as jy die R2000 fooi kan betaal sal jy dit kan kry 2023/06/17, 06:54 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/17, 06:55 - Kate Kruse Investments New: probeer asseblief R1000 kry ek het 'n woman gesien wat jou sal help met die oorblywende balans van R1000 2023/06/17, 07:24 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/17, 13:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/17, 14:52 - Hillary: *MTN, CELLC, VODACOM, AND TELKOM SA CELEBRATE THE YOUTH MONTH 2023* _*MTN, CELL C, VODACOM, AND TELKOM SA* is giving their customers 50gb free data and R422 Airtime in Celebration of YOUTH MONTH 2023 *DEADLINE:30TH JUNE*_ Hurry now and grab this *47TH ANNIVERSARY YOUTH MONTH2023 CELEBRATION* offer FOR MTN👇👇 *https://bit.ly/Youth-Month-Celebration-2023* FOR CELL C👇👇 *https://bit.ly/Youth-Month-Celebration-2023* FOR VODACOM👇👇 *https://bit.ly/Youth-Month-Celebration-2023* FOR TELKOM SA👇👇 *https://bit.ly/Youth-Month-Celebration-2023* 2023/06/17, 14:54 - Kate Kruse Investments New: wat is hierdie? 2023/06/17, 14:54 - Kate Kruse Investments New: dink jy ek hier is 'n grap? 2023/06/20, 11:08 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hallo 2023/06/20, 11:13 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/20, 11:14 - Kate Kruse Investments New: wou jy jou geld verloor 2023/06/20, 11:26 - Hillary: Ek jou gese ek kan nie geld in die hande kry omdat julle die hele tyd geld gevra het en gese het dit is die laaste maar dit was nie so nie. Julle storie het elke keer verander.So moet my nie drieg nie. Ek kan hierdie ook verder vat as jy wil my drieg 2023/06/20, 11:28 - Kate Kruse Investments New: nee, nee nee, jy sal nie meer betaal nie? 2023/06/20, 11:29 - Kate Kruse Investments New: is dit die einde daarvan? 2023/06/20, 11:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: IMG-20230620-WA0226.jpg (file attached) die maatskappy dra reeds die fondse aan my oor, maar hulle wil hê jy moet eers die fooi betaal 2023/06/20, 11:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Sodra jy die fooi betaal sal jy jou wins binne 20 minute kry 2023/06/20, 11:33 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Missed voice call 2023/06/20, 11:33 - Hillary: I'm in a training session 2023/06/20, 11:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Ok 2023/06/20, 11:35 - Kate Kruse Investments New: But you need to help yourself out? 2023/06/20, 11:55 - Hillary: So how do I get money if I don't have. I've already lent money due to you guys giving a different story. My source won't help me. So what do you except me to do. I already have made someone cross with me and he thinks I **** to him. 2023/06/20, 11:57 - Kate Kruse Investments New: No, please me this time am going to make things up to you? 2023/06/20, 12:00 - Kate Kruse Investments New: I won't miss things up, this time I promise? 2023/06/20, 13:58 - Hillary: So what is my profit now 2023/06/20, 14:02 - Kate Kruse Investments New: R93,700? 2023/06/20, 14:29 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Are you there? 2023/06/20, 14:30 - Hillary: Still in training till 5 2023/06/20, 14:30 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Alright 2023/06/20, 17:02 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Hey 2023/06/20, 17:41 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Good evening 2023/06/21, 08:09 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Good morning 2023/06/21, 08:16 - Hillary: In training 2023/06/21, 08:16 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Please believe me 2023/06/21, 08:17 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Pay the R2000 and get your full profits? 2023/06/21, 08:22 - Hillary: Morning I don't have it right now. I told you I lent the other. So I don't know where to get the r2000 from as I have R30 in my bank account 2023/06/21, 08:23 - Kate Kruse Investments New: Get and get it? 2023/06/26, 14:51 - Messages and calls are end-to-end encrypted. No one outside of this chat, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them. Tap to learn more. 2023/06/26, 14:51 - Kate *******: Good afternoon 2023/06/26, 14:51 - Kate *******: Is Kate kruse 2023/06/26, 22:50 - Hillary: Hi have got another number again 2023/06/27, 08:06 - Kate *******: Yes, we usually change it? 2023/06/27, 08:07 - Kate *******: Please don't be angry about it? 2023/06/27, 08:10 - Hillary: Why do you need to keep on changing it? 2023/06/27, 08:11 - Kate *******: That is how the company works 2023/06/27, 08:14 - Hillary: Ok 2023/06/27, 08:14 - Kate *******: Have you have the money now 2023/06/27, 08:38 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/06/27, 08:48 - Hillary: No I told you end ofmonth 2023/06/27, 08:48 - Kate *******: Ok 2023/06/29, 08:14 - Hillary: Kate what guarantee have I got that when I pay the R2000 I'll get my money. Because up to now it has been empty promises 2023/06/29, 08:15 - Kate *******: I give you my full guarantee and trust that you will get your money 2023/06/29, 08:21 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/06/29, 08:26 - Hillary: I am just trying to work out my funds that come in tomorrow night to see how I can put together the money to get my other money. But I'm honest with you I am scared to pay you any more money as up to now it has not let me gain anything. It has just got me deeper into the **** 2023/06/29, 08:32 - Kate *******: No, no, you don't have to be scared because you are going to get it? 2023/06/29, 17:54 - Hillary: Please be honest with me. Am I going to have stories to get my money into my capitec account once I pay the fees. My daughter has just been diagnosed with breast cancer. I don't need to lose more money. I will have to assist them. If I'm not going to get it tell me and we walk away from each other. 2023/06/29, 18:38 - Kate *******: You will have it? 2023/06/29, 18:38 - Kate *******: Am not playing with you? 2023/06/29, 19:36 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/06/29, 19:49 - Kate *******: Let me send you the bank details to make the deposit 2023/06/30, 07:24 - Kate *******: Good morning 2023/06/30, 07:33 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/06/30, 07:33 - Kate *******: Why are you not replying back 2023/06/30, 07:34 - Hillary: Because I was a sleep till the call woke me. I did not have a good nite 2023/06/30, 07:35 - Kate *******: Sorry about that? 2023/06/30, 07:39 - Kate *******: So, can we proceed 2023/06/30, 07:58 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/06/30, 08:03 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/06/30, 08:16 - Kate *******: Hallo 2023/06/30, 08:25 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/06/30, 09:36 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/06/30, 22:24 - Kate *******: Good evening 2023/06/30, 22:24 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/06/30, 23:17 - Kate *******: You are not replying 2023/07/01, 06:47 - Hillary: Morning you promise on you life if I pay the R2000 now I'll get the 95k in my capitec bank account. 2023/07/01, 08:53 - Kate *******: Yes, I do? 2023/07/01, 08:55 - Hillary: How long will it take 2023/07/01, 08:55 - Kate *******: 4 hours time 2023/07/01, 08:55 - Hillary: Why so long 2023/07/01, 08:59 - Kate *******: It take time 2023/07/01, 09:03 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/07/01, 09:04 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 09:05 - Kate *******: I want to send you the details to make your deposit? 2023/07/01, 09:05 - Hillary: Yes I'm here just sorting grandkids 2023/07/01, 09:05 - Kate *******: ? 2023/07/01, 09:06 - Hillary: You can send I'll do it in 30mins 2023/07/01, 09:06 - Kate *******: African bank: Account number :20086307890 Branch: 430000 Name:jarryd 2023/07/01, 09:06 - Kate *******: Please make immediately payment 2023/07/01, 09:06 - Hillary: Ok 2023/07/01, 09:37 - Hillary: IMG-20230701-WA0059.jpg (file attached) 2023/07/01, 09:37 - Hillary: Please I'm asking nicely can I get the money asap. Thx 2023/07/01, 09:41 - Kate *******: It's immediately payment 2023/07/01, 09:46 - Hillary: Yes 2023/07/01, 10:44 - Kate *******: Ok 2023/07/01, 10:49 - Kate *******: Hi 2023/07/01, 10:49 - Kate *******: Have you pay for commission fee before? 2023/07/01, 11:24 - Hillary: Yes 2023/07/01, 11:24 - Hillary: This is the last payment 2023/07/01, 11:24 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 11:26 - Kate *******: I mean have you pay for commission fee before 2023/07/01, 11:26 - Kate *******: Because the said you have not paid it? 2023/07/01, 11:26 - Hillary: Yes. And I'm telling you now I'm not paying another cent 2023/07/01, 11:27 - Kate *******: Hey, I told you before that you need to pay for 10% of commission fee 2023/07/01, 11:28 - Hillary: I've paid over R11000 rand now so I promise I will not pay another cent. Because this is a never ending story. You said you have the money. 2023/07/01, 11:28 - Kate *******: It's alright end 2023/07/01, 11:31 - Kate *******: Dear [Hillary], I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to discuss the commission fees associated with our services. As you may know, our company charges a commission fee for the services we provide. This fee allows us to provide you with the best possible service and ensures that we are compensated for our time and effort. If you have any questions or concerns about the commission fee, please don’t hesitate to reach out to me. I would be happy to discuss this further with you. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Best regards, [Kate kruse] 2023/07/01, 11:31 - Kate *******: This is must, you must pay this fee? 2023/07/01, 11:32 - Kate *******: Because after this, it's the end of it? 2023/07/01, 11:32 - Hillary: This is bull****. I'm done you can take the 9% from the amount you are paying me. You never mention another thing about commission each time you tell me this is the last payment. So if I don't get my funds I will take it further. Because after each payment there is another story I'm done NOT paying another cent . 2023/07/01, 11:33 - Kate *******: Hey, you have to understand me? 2023/07/01, 11:34 - Kate *******: After this am personally going to get your money paid to your account my self? 2023/07/01, 11:36 - Hillary: This is the first time you sent this message and I have all the other whatsapp where you promise this is the last payment. I'm done take your commission from the amount you have to pay over to Mr. I new you would take me for a ride. I should never have trusted you. You and your company are *****sters. I'm not paying another cents. I told you yesterday my daughter is sick I need every cent and you promised again after the R2000 I would get my money. 2023/07/01, 11:37 - Hillary: I don't believe you any more. Forget me paying another cent 2023/07/01, 11:37 - Kate *******: Am not taking your for a ride 2023/07/01, 11:37 - Kate *******: This is just all of it? 2023/07/01, 11:38 - Kate *******: VID-20230701-WA0245.mp4 (file attached) 2023/07/01, 11:38 - Kate *******: Here is it, am not playing with you at all? 2023/07/01, 11:39 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 11:39 - Hillary: I'm done with you 2023/07/01, 11:39 - Hillary: I don't believe you 2023/07/01, 11:39 - Kate *******: Why we I take a old woman that is older than me for a ride 2023/07/01, 11:40 - Kate *******: You have to believe me 2023/07/01, 11:40 - Kate *******: There is the proof 2023/07/01, 11:40 - Kate *******: Am not lies 2023/07/01, 11:41 - Hillary: I'm done take the commission from the money you owe me and pay me the difference. I'm not paying another cent Forget it 2023/07/01, 11:41 - Kate *******: The fee is just R4000 that is all? 2023/07/01, 11:41 - Kate *******: No, no no, you have to trust me this lastly 2023/07/01, 11:42 - Hillary: I don't care I'm not paying another cent I also don't believe the video as all the way this has been a shady business everytime a new amount to be paid. I'm done I'm not paying a cent 2023/07/01, 11:43 - Kate *******: No, the video is real 2023/07/01, 11:43 - Kate *******: You have to believe it 2023/07/01, 11:43 - Kate *******: Your profit also increases to R1500,000 2023/07/01, 11:44 - Kate *******: Am not playing with you 2023/07/01, 11:44 - Kate *******: Can you resend your bank details again please? 2023/07/01, 11:45 - Kate *******: Ok, I got it? 2023/07/01, 11:45 - Kate *******: Bank :Capitec account number 1504470603 2023/07/01, 11:45 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 11:47 - Kate *******: Once you pay the last fee, it won't take up to 5 minutes before you get your profit of R1500,000 into your bank account 2023/07/01, 11:48 - Kate *******: I know you have work hard in getting this profit, but my best I can assure you that your efforts is not wasted? 2023/07/01, 11:48 - Kate *******: You will get it, last i can assure you of that? 2023/07/01, 11:48 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 11:51 - Hillary: Where does the R1500 come from I thought I would be getting 95k that's what you said 2023/07/01, 11:52 - Kate *******: Your profit increases 2023/07/01, 11:56 - Kate *******: Your profit increases to R1500,000 2023/07/01, 11:57 - Kate *******: The company ask me to tell you that the money can enter your account once 2023/07/01, 11:58 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 12:03 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/01, 12:18 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 13:29 - Kate *******: Hallo 2023/07/01, 14:31 - Hillary: 10% of R1500,000 is not R4000 so I think they think I'm stupid. 10% would be R150,000 2023/07/01, 15:15 - Kate *******: You seem not understand 2023/07/01, 15:16 - Kate *******: That your first R2000 is added 2023/07/01, 15:16 - Kate *******: With your R4000 2023/07/01, 15:17 - Kate *******: To make it, R1500,000 2023/07/01, 15:30 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 16:19 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/01, 16:45 - Hillary: Are you saying the amount to be paid out is one million five hundred thousand rand? Where is this money now?In Sa? 2023/07/01, 16:45 - Kate *******: No 2023/07/01, 16:46 - Kate *******: One hundred and fifty thousand 2023/07/01, 16:46 - Hillary: Where is the money now? 2023/07/01, 16:47 - Kate *******: Once you pay the fee, it's will be transfer to your account 2023/07/01, 16:47 - Hillary: But as of now in who's account is it now 2023/07/01, 16:48 - Kate *******: The CEO account 2023/07/01, 16:48 - Hillary: But is it in sa or overseas 2023/07/01, 16:48 - Kate *******: Once you pay it, it will be transferred into your account 2023/07/01, 16:50 - Hillary: How can I trust that it will be paid as everything you says it is going to be paid it does not get paid. I have to put money into it again and again 2023/07/01, 16:51 - Hillary: If you where in my shoes how would you feel after all these empty promises 2023/07/01, 16:51 - Kate *******: You have to trust me this once 2023/07/01, 16:51 - Kate *******: I understand you but I will make things up to you 2023/07/01, 16:54 - Hillary: I have no recall on this if i pay this money now and you dont pay the money over to me I don't have the company name or any other means of contacting you because you keep changing your number as well it seems odd. If it is in your ceo's account he can just deduct the commission from it and pay me the difference 2023/07/01, 16:56 - Kate *******: Am always on Facebook 2023/07/01, 16:56 - Kate *******: Am not going anywhere 2023/07/01, 16:57 - Kate *******: If we change numbers we always contact our client back 2023/07/01, 16:57 - Hillary: Yes but I can't trace you to an address where I can come see you in person. 2023/07/01, 16:58 - Kate *******: I won't take your money 2023/07/01, 16:58 - Kate *******: That is your hard earn money 2023/07/01, 17:00 - Hillary: Give me something that can comfort me that I can trust you because up to now it has just been empty promises. I'm out of pocket with R11000 my car is behind my phone is behind because of the money I had ti give you last month. Now I'm going to be another R6000 out of pocket 2023/07/01, 17:02 - Kate *******: I already speak with company and I can guarantee you that this is your last payment 2023/07/01, 17:08 - Hillary: You Said the same thing a few times already each time it is the last but it is not so how can I trust again 2023/07/01, 17:09 - Kate *******: You have to 2023/07/01, 17:09 - Kate *******: Trust me on this 2023/07/01, 17:10 - Kate *******: I have not eaten because of you 2023/07/01, 17:10 - Kate *******: So I won stop at nothing if I don't make it right with you 2023/07/01, 17:11 - Hillary: Nether did I last month because I paid so much money last month and if I give this money I won't be able to try and feed my family 2023/07/01, 17:12 - Kate *******: I understand your fears and please please you have to take my word on this? 2023/07/01, 17:12 - Hillary: Even now I feel sick of worries that I paid the money and still got nothing. Is the ceo's account in south africa 2023/07/01, 17:13 - Kate *******: No? 2023/07/01, 17:14 - Kate *******: The CEO use dollar not rand 2023/07/01, 17:14 - Kate *******: See? 2023/07/01, 17:15 - Hillary: Then I'm going to be stuck because the next thing is the reserve bank will have a problem with the money coming in. How is he going to get it into my account if he uses dollars 2023/07/01, 17:16 - Kate *******: I will trade it to rand 2023/07/01, 17:17 - Kate *******: And then send it to you in the next 3 hours 2023/07/01, 17:17 - Kate *******: It's not difficult 2023/07/01, 17:19 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 17:22 - Kate *******: ??? 2023/07/01, 17:25 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/07/01, 17:27 - Hillary: I am but I'm so scared I put this money in, and I get nothing. I can't get behind another month because of the. There seems to be no guarantee 2023/07/01, 17:27 - Hillary: All I've had is promises 2023/07/01, 17:27 - Hillary: Of nothing 2023/07/01, 17:27 - Kate *******: I can assure you of that 2023/07/01, 17:27 - Kate *******: You won't lose it? 2023/07/01, 17:28 - Hillary: Kate you have been assuring me and promising each time that this is the last money and then it is not 2023/07/01, 17:30 - Kate *******: No, no no, you won't pay anymore 2023/07/01, 17:31 - Hillary: Kate does this happen with all the clients because it seems as if your company does not know how much money a person needs to put in . You promised the R2000 would be the last and now we are where we were last month with no return 2023/07/01, 17:32 - Kate *******: There is a return after this 2023/07/01, 17:33 - Kate *******: You won't pay more again 2023/07/01, 17:34 - Hillary: Kate I want to believe you and this money would help me great deal to get back on my feet but I don't know if I can trust again 2023/07/01, 17:35 - Kate *******: Please I will make it up to you after this? 2023/07/01, 17:40 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/01, 17:43 - Hillary: What are you going to do if the ceo doesn't pay 2023/07/01, 17:43 - Kate *******: Am going to take it myself 2023/07/01, 17:44 - Hillary: What do you mean take it yourself 2023/07/01, 17:45 - Kate *******: Am sure it will come through 2023/07/01, 17:49 - Kate *******: Trust me 2023/07/01, 17:55 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/01, 17:59 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/07/01, 18:01 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:06 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:14 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:15 - Kate *******: I want to send you the bank details to make your deposit 2023/07/01, 18:16 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:25 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:55 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:56 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 18:58 - Kate *******: You have to believe me on this? 2023/07/01, 19:03 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:04 - Kate *******: Why are you not replying back? 2023/07/01, 19:05 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:05 - Kate *******: You have to listen to me on this? 2023/07/01, 19:07 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:13 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:14 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:17 - Hillary: Because I have to think about this. I'm mad right now that I feel like I've been led down a road with no return 2023/07/01, 19:17 - Kate *******: You have to trust me on this 2023/07/01, 19:17 - Kate *******: Because I won't let you down 2023/07/01, 19:17 - Kate *******: With my word you won't lose it 2023/07/01, 19:18 - Kate *******: This message was deleted 2023/07/01, 19:18 - Kate *******: Make your deposit 2023/07/01, 19:18 - Kate *******: Please make immediately payment 2023/07/01, 19:34 - Kate *******: Hello 👋 2023/07/01, 19:34 - Kate *******: The company is still waiting 2023/07/01, 19:34 - Kate *******: Your payout is ready 2023/07/01, 19:42 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:42 - Kate *******: Why are you acting like this 2023/07/01, 19:43 - Kate *******: If the company act like this you will not get your profit 2023/07/01, 19:43 - Kate *******: You are just making everything hard for yourself 2023/07/01, 19:47 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 19:48 - Hillary: Because I have lost a lot of money and have jo guarantee that I will get the 150000 2023/07/01, 19:49 - Hillary: They have been playing with me the whole time 2023/07/01, 19:49 - Kate *******: We are not playing with you at all 2023/07/01, 19:49 - Kate *******: That why I can assure you that this is your last payment 2023/07/01, 19:49 - Hillary: Would you not feel Like me if you had put in all this money and not got a cent in return 2023/07/01, 19:50 - Hillary: If I pay this money I have no guarantee that I'm going to get the money. Because all I have heard is empty promises 2023/07/01, 19:50 - Kate *******: But am trying my best on you 2023/07/01, 19:50 - Kate *******: You have to understand me too 2023/07/01, 19:51 - Hillary: I explained from the beginning I don't have money to waste. So if I pay this and I don't get anything how are you going to help me 2023/07/01, 19:51 - Kate *******: This is not empty promise, I can assure you of that 2023/07/01, 19:52 - Hillary: What makes thus different to the other tines 2023/07/01, 19:52 - Kate *******: This is the true of it all? 2023/07/01, 19:52 - Kate *******: You won't pay more that is it? 2023/07/01, 19:53 - Kate *******: Yes, it's because it is the last of it? 2023/07/01, 19:54 - Kate *******: You have to understand me 2023/07/01, 19:55 - Hillary: If I pay this and don't get anything back I'll loose my car because of empty promises I got behind. So I can't afford to loose my car. What am I going to do if this dies not come through 2023/07/01, 19:55 - Kate *******: You won't lose it? 2023/07/01, 19:57 - Hillary: That is what you have been saying since the begin but I had no gain on any of this as of now I'm still out of pocket 2023/07/01, 19:59 - Hillary: What I don't understand all these cost are not put up front the ad sound like it is so easy. But it is not. It cost alot of money with promises that don't happen 2023/07/01, 19:59 - Kate *******: I know, that why I want to make things up to you 2023/07/01, 20:00 - Kate *******: They will be no promise anymore 2023/07/01, 20:03 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/01, 20:03 - Hillary: But there us also no guarantees 2023/07/01, 20:04 - Kate *******: I told you that you have been guarantee 💯 2023/07/01, 20:06 - Hillary: You won't believe how much i need that money but because of all the empty promises I an scared to pay anymore money 2023/07/01, 20:08 - Kate *******: You will get it 2023/07/01, 20:08 - Kate *******: Believe me 2023/07/01, 20:10 - Hillary: How many other clients have gone through this 2023/07/01, 20:10 - Kate *******: Alot 2023/07/01, 20:11 - Hillary: But then how come you did not tell me about the cost up front 2023/07/01, 20:13 - Hillary: Surely you can understand why I feel like this 2023/07/01, 20:13 - Kate *******: I understand 2023/07/01, 20:13 - Kate *******: But you will get it this time 2023/07/01, 20:48 - Kate *******: Hallo 2023/07/01, 20:48 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 20:49 - Kate *******: Why are you making me stress out 2023/07/01, 20:50 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 20:53 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 20:54 - Kate *******: I have give you the bank details since, still yet nothing 2023/07/01, 20:54 - Kate *******: You are just making things harder for yourself 2023/07/01, 20:56 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 20:57 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 21:16 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/01, 21:17 - Kate *******: ?. 2023/07/02, 04:53 - Kate *******: Good morning 2023/07/02, 06:22 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 06:23 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 07:24 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 07:29 - Kate *******: Hallo 2023/07/02, 08:07 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 08:19 - Hillary: Kate I budget R2000 now you want R4000 where do you think I must get it from. That is why I asked you more than once is that the last and everytime you said yes. How am I making things harder. You and your company keep changing and expect money to fall out of the sky. They can just as easily deduct it and pay me difference. I'm not going to lend money again as it is I had to pay the person i lent from last payments as back the. You also said it was the last payments. So the only salution is they deduct and pay me the difference or will have to wait to next pay day unless you help me with the R4000 and I give it back 2023/07/02, 08:21 - Kate *******: i promise to show you learned from these experiences and are committed to being transparent about your actions and decisions moving forward 2023/07/02, 08:21 - Kate *******: I guarantee you that you will maintain or improve the quality of your product or service 2023/07/02, 08:22 - Kate *******: And I promise you that we won't take more money again 2023/07/02, 08:22 - Kate *******: So take my word on this? 2023/07/02, 08:23 - Hillary: Can't talk now. What's up? 2023/07/02, 08:24 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 08:25 - Hillary: I did not tell my husband about this so I can't talk when he is near. Because he warned me that this was to good to be true 2023/07/02, 08:25 - Kate *******: Believe me 2023/07/02, 08:26 - Kate *******: I understand you but you have to trust me on this 2023/07/02, 08:27 - Kate *******: Ok, take my word on this, if there is another fee, I will pay it myself? 2023/07/02, 08:28 - Kate *******: You won't pay more 2023/07/02, 08:31 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 08:33 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 09:43 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 09:44 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 09:46 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/07/02, 09:50 - Kate *******: Please reply 2023/07/02, 09:56 - Kate *******: ,, 2023/07/02, 11:51 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 17:53 - Kate *******: Good evening 2023/07/02, 19:07 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 19:08 - Kate *******: Why are you acting like this? 2023/07/02, 19:10 - Hillary: I'm not acting I told you if hubby is around I can't talk. And I also told you I don't have R4000 now. So what must I do I'm not acting I'm yelling you fscts6 2023/07/02, 19:11 - Kate *******: Ok, how much did you have, let me help you out 2023/07/02, 19:11 - Kate *******: Because I know you will have it, this time? 2023/07/02, 19:12 - Kate *******: ?, 2023/07/02, 19:14 - Kate *******: Please reply me 2023/07/02, 19:15 - Hillary: I don't have any if you help me ill give it back double. I don't have any extra. I'm down to the bone 2023/07/02, 19:16 - Kate *******: I can only help with R2000 2023/07/02, 19:16 - Kate *******: Please be honest with me 2023/07/02, 19:16 - Kate *******: I won't take your money 2023/07/02, 19:18 - Kate *******: ? 2023/07/02, 19:18 - Hillary: I had to catch up what I did not pay on my car and phone. I am being honest from the beginning . I can even send you a copy of my bank balance if you don't believe me. I wish I had it my drowning 2023/07/02, 19:19 - Kate *******: R2000 is okay 2023/07/02, 19:19 - Kate *******: You will get your profit within 5 minutes 2023/07/02, 19:19 - Hillary: I will gladly give you double as I will be able to catchup all my debt 2023/07/02, 19:20 - Kate *******: You don't seem to understand me 2023/07/02, 19:20 - Kate *******: I know you are scared to pay any fee 2023/07/02, 19:21 - Kate *******: But trust me you won't regret it 2023/07/02, 19:23 - Kate *******: Please believe me 2023/07/02, 19:23 - Kate *******: I have already talk to the company 2023/07/02, 19:23 - Kate *******: That you won't pay more again 2023/07/02, 19:24 - Kate *******: That if you pay more they will have to refund your money back 2023/07/02, 19:24 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 19:25 - Hillary: so what are you saying now you will pay r2000 and I must pay r2000 and ill get my money 2023/07/02, 19:25 - Kate *******: Yes 2023/07/02, 19:25 - Kate *******: That is a promise 2023/07/02, 19:26 - Hillary: just give me 20 minutes so I can what I can do 2023/07/02, 19:26 - Kate *******: Ok 2023/07/02, 19:39 - Kate *******: Hello 2023/07/02, 19:53 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/02, 19:54 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 19:58 - Hillary: If I get the money what is the next process. Because I'm scared like he'll this will be money I'm lending again 2023/07/02, 19:58 - Kate *******: You won't lose it 2023/07/02, 19:59 - Kate *******: You don't have to worry 2023/07/02, 20:00 - Hillary: How long will it take before it shows in my capitec account. I want a guarantee that it will be in the bank not wallet 2023/07/02, 20:00 - Kate *******: 5 minutes 2023/07/02, 20:00 - Hillary: Promise it will be in capitec 2023/07/02, 20:01 - Kate *******: Yes I promise 2023/07/02, 20:01 - Kate *******: Account Holder: JR DARIES Bank: Bidvest Bank Account Type: Savings Account Number: 28300409301 Branch Code: 462005 2023/07/02, 20:01 - Kate *******: Please make immediately payment 2023/07/02, 20:02 - Hillary: Kate what am I going to do if does not 2023/07/02, 20:02 - Kate *******: Please me you won't lose it 2023/07/02, 20:02 - Kate *******: I can assure you of that? 2023/07/02, 20:05 - Hillary: You deleted this message 2023/07/02, 20:06 - Hillary: Ref? 2023/07/02, 20:08 - Hillary: Ok so send me the proof of your R2000 so I can see you are really going to help 2023/07/02, 20:12 - Kate *******: You already paid it 2023/07/02, 20:12 - Kate *******: Send me the proof 2023/07/02, 20:13 - Hillary: Where is the proof of what you are going to pay for me 2023/07/02, 20:15 - Kate *******: I already seen it 2023/07/02, 20:15 - Kate *******: Send it 2023/07/02, 20:15 - Hillary: I don't understand. I want to see where you have paid the other R2000 2023/07/02, 20:16 - Kate *******: Send me 2023/07/02, 20:16 - Hillary: Because there is suppose to be R4000. If I pay R2000 and you don't pay the other R2000 in not going to get my money 2023/07/02, 20:16 - Kate *******: Am not here for joke 2023/07/02, 20:17 - Kate *******: I already assured you that, so don't worry about it 2023/07/02, 20:17 - Kate *******: Just send me the proof 2023/07/02, 20:18 - Hillary: Last time you said you would help me. Then you said your husband used the money so I just want to make sure it does not happen again. Sorry but I'm scared 2023/07/02, 20:18 - Kate *******: No, this one is different 2023/07/02, 20:19 - Kate *******: Send me the proof 2023/07/02, 20:19 - Hillary: Kate if they don't get the r4000 then I'm not going to get the money 2023/07/02, 20:20 - Kate *******: You are going to get it 2023/07/02, 20:20 - Hillary: If I only pay r2000 2023/07/02, 20:20 - Kate *******: Just send it, let me send it to the company 2023/07/02, 20:20 - Kate *******: Send me the proof 2023/07/02, 20:22 - Hillary: Kate I know you said you spoke to them but I can't understand why I only need to pay r2000 now and I'll get my money 2023/07/02, 20:22 - Kate *******: All we need is the proof 2023/07/02, 20:22 - Hillary: Of r2000 2023/07/02, 20:22 - Kate *******: Yes 2023/07/02, 20:23 - Hillary: Kate the company has messed mr around from the beginning so I'm scared I get the same issue for more money 2023/07/02, 20:24 - Kate *******: No, you don't have to be scared 2023/07/02, 20:24 - Kate *******: Because you will get it 2023/07/02, 20:25 - Hillary: You have said before that I would get it and I never did what makes this different 2023/07/02, 20:29 - Kate *******: null 2023/07/02, 20:29 - Kate *******: I told you I have paid it 2023/07/02, 20:29 - Hillary: I can't open the foto send it again please 2023/07/02, 20:30 - Kate *******: This message was deleted 2023/07/02, 20:32 - Hillary: This is from my account 150447063 is not the same account as what you sent me 2023/07/02, 20:33 - Kate *******: Sorry that is what you paid yesterday 2023/07/02, 20:33 - Hillary: Yes 2023/07/02, 20:33 - Kate *******: Is a mistake 2023/07/02, 20:34 - Hillary: Ok send me then your payment 2023/07/02, 20:38 - Kate *******: IMG-20230702-WA0220.jpg (file attached) 2023/07/02, 20:39 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 20:39 - Kate *******: Send me the proof 2023/07/02, 20:39 - Hillary: Why you paying into African Bank with a different ref 2023/07/02, 20:40 - Kate *******: That is also the company account 2023/07/02, 20:41 - Hillary: You need to understand I have been miss led I'm scared 2023/07/02, 20:41 - Kate *******: The account don't have reference that why I put that 2023/07/02, 20:41 - Kate *******: I understand you but you don't have to be scared 2023/07/02, 20:42 - Kate *******: Because I already sorted things out 2023/07/02, 20:44 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 20:45 - Hillary: Kate I'll loss everything if you are not telling me the truth 2023/07/02, 20:45 - Kate *******: That is the truth 2023/07/02, 20:46 - Hillary: With in 5min I'll have my money in my capitec accounr 2023/07/02, 20:47 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 20:47 - Kate *******: Is this account you paid it 2023/07/02, 20:47 - Hillary: Will I have the funds in my capitec account in 5mins? 2023/07/02, 20:47 - Kate *******: Yes 2023/07/02, 20:47 - Kate *******: I promise 2023/07/02, 20:48 - Kate *******: Send me the proof of the payment 2023/07/02, 20:49 - Hillary: IMG-20230702-WA0221.jpg (file attached) Kate please don't let me be disappointed again 2023/07/02, 20:50 - Hillary: You promised 2023/07/02, 20:51 - Kate *******: Ok 2023/07/02, 20:51 - Hillary: I'm waiting please 2023/07/02, 20:51 - Kate *******: Please wait 2023/07/02, 20:52 - Kate *******: You already make me stress out 2023/07/02, 20:53 - Hillary: I'm stressed beyond myself 2023/07/02, 20:59 - Hillary: Where are you now 2023/07/02, 21:06 - Hillary: ??? 2023/07/02, 21:13 - Hillary: Kate??? 2023/07/02, 21:14 - Kate *******: Am here 2023/07/02, 21:17 - Hillary: Ok what's happing 2023/07/02, 21:17 - Kate *******: Am still waiting for they reply 2023/07/02, 21:26 - Hillary: Why are they taking so long my nervous 2023/07/02, 21:27 - Kate *******: Am so tired 😫 2023/07/02, 21:27 - Kate *******: They ask for the R2000 2023/07/02, 21:28 - Hillary: What now? I paid r2000 you paid r2000 2023/07/02, 21:29 - Hillary: I new I should not have done this R2000 I new you have not kept yourside 2023/07/02, 21:30 - Kate *******: I don't pay that money for you 2023/07/02, 21:30 - Kate *******: You have to complete your fee 2023/07/02, 21:32 - Hillary: Kate what are you talking about you have just said you would pay the r2000 so what now. Now you have I different story again. I told you that your promise me that nothing. I sick to my stomach in going to loss everything my car my I can't pay my domestic. All because I believe you again. 2023/07/02, 21:32 - Hillary: I new this was n ly 2023/07/02, 21:33 - Hillary: I can't feed my family because of you and your company 2023/07/02, 21:36 - Hillary: Why are you not saying anything now 2023/07/02, 21:37 - Hillary: My God I don't know what I'm going to do. This is ***** 2023/07/02, 21:38 - Kate *******: I told you that is R4000 2023/07/02, 21:38 - Kate *******: To get your profit 2023/07/02, 21:38 - Kate *******: Now the company is waiting for the R2000 2023/07/02, 21:38 - Kate *******: No, it's 2023/07/02, 21:38 - Kate *******: Not 2023/07/02, 21:38 - Kate *******: I told you the pay the R2000 2023/07/02, 21:39 - Hillary: I paid the R2000 2023/07/02, 21:39 - Kate *******: Remain R2000 to get your profit 2023/07/02, 21:39 - Hillary: What a ly 2023/07/02, 21:40 - Kate *******: I invest that R2000 I sent you 2023/07/02, 21:41 - Hillary: Here you said you would help with the r2000 now you have a different story 2023/07/02, 21:42 - Hillary: If you paided R2000 and I paid R2000 then they got the r4000 so this does not make sense. I sent you proof of the R2000 that I paid 2023/07/02, 21:44 - Kate *******: I don't pay R2000 dear 2023/07/02, 21:44 - Kate *******: I invest the R2000 2023/07/02, 21:44 - Kate *******: Sorry about that 2023/07/02, 21:47 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/02, 21:48 - Kate *******: You have to deposit the remaining balance of R2000 to get your profit within 5 minutes 2023/07/02, 21:48 - Hillary: I hope you sleep well. Knowing you cheated me put of my money. GOD bless you. You will loss everything because of what you have done to me. I was honest with you from the beginning and you took me for a ride. I questioned you all the way. All the way you promised. Knowing my husband has cancer and my daughter too. Knowing that I was desperate believing you all the way. I am not paying anymore money's you just ly to me all the time 2023/07/02, 21:51 - Kate *******: Please please 🙏 2023/07/02, 21:51 - Hillary: I'm going to have a heart attack because of what you have done to me. I feel like I'm hoping to pass out. 2023/07/02, 21:52 - Kate *******: I don't mean to act like that 2023/07/02, 21:52 - Kate *******: Am just doing it for your to pay the fee and get your completed profit 2023/07/02, 21:53 - Hillary: no you are lying to me to benefit yourself 2023/07/02, 21:54 - Kate *******: No, am not 2023/07/02, 21:54 - Kate *******: Please believe me 2023/07/02, 21:54 - Hillary: no way 2023/07/02, 21:55 - Hillary: I'm not doing that again 2023/07/02, 21:55 - Kate *******: Please please please am not playing 2023/07/02, 21:55 - Hillary: No way 2023/07/02, 21:55 - Hillary: You are 2023/07/02, 21:57 - Kate *******: Talk better tomorrow morning 2023/07/02, 21:57 - Kate *******: Because if you pay the remaining balance you will get your profit 2023/07/02, 21:58 - Hillary: I won't and you know that. So don't ly to me anymore 2023/07/02, 22:01 - Hillary: I am stupid for believing you but I'm so desperate and you used that against me. I hope you feel good about what you have done 2023/07/02, 22:20 - Kate *******: Why are you saying a thing like that 2023/07/03, 07:15 - Kate *******: Good morning 2023/07/03, 08:49 - Kate *******: Are you there 2023/07/03, 08:49 - Kate *******: Please pay the remaining balance of R2000 to get your profit 2023/07/03, 08:52 - Kate *******: Hey 2023/07/03, 08:55 - Hillary: Do you really think I'm going to believe you after yesterday. I don't think so 2023/07/03, 08:55 - Kate *******: You don't seem to understand me 2023/07/03, 08:56 - Kate *******: The company is progressing with your transfer without the R2000 they won't progressing with it? 2023/07/03, 08:57 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 08:58 - Kate *******: You have to trust me on it 2023/07/03, 09:06 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 09:24 - Hillary: No not again. Yo =u will have to do something for me to trust you each time I have and it only led me into further debt 2023/07/03, 09:30 - Kate *******: No, I assure you that this R2000 is your last payment 2023/07/03, 09:31 - Kate *******: You won't pay more again 2023/07/03, 09:33 - Kate *******: ? 2023/07/03, 09:34 - Hillary: You have said those words a million times over and they mean nothing as you are not a person of your word. I told you you will have to do something to show I can trust you but for now I dont trust you all you have done is leas me down a path of no return with my people and the people that I owe monet to 2023/07/03, 09:35 - Kate *******: VID-20230703-WA0113.mp4 (file attached) 2023/07/03, 09:36 - Kate *******: This is a proof where this man received him profit fully 2023/07/03, 09:36 - Kate *******: I won't lie to you anymore 2023/07/03, 09:36 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 09:37 - Hillary: But again it is paid into his wallet and not a bank account 2023/07/03, 09:38 - Hillary: Do you really except me to believe you 2023/07/03, 09:38 - Kate *******: Yes, it's can trade it into rand and send it to him bank account 2023/07/03, 09:40 - Kate *******: You have to, to make things work 2023/07/03, 09:41 - Hillary: Nothing will work. I don't believe these videos they are just someone you know and you got them do help you make money out of me 2023/07/03, 09:42 - Hillary: You pay the R2000 and let me pay you back once the money is through.bi don't trust you 2023/07/03, 09:42 - Kate *******: Why will i do such thing 2023/07/03, 09:42 - Kate *******: You have to trust me to make it work 2023/07/03, 09:49 - Kate *******: IMG-20230703-WA0180.jpg (file attached) 2023/07/03, 09:50 - Kate *******: Here is it, they can withdraw it to your bank account 2023/07/03, 09:50 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 09:52 - Hillary: Kate why would this time be any different to the last month of lies and empty promisses 2023/07/03, 09:53 - Kate *******: Please am not lies 2023/07/03, 09:53 - Kate *******: You have to believe me 2023/07/03, 09:53 - Kate *******: They are working on it, am sure of that? 2023/07/03, 09:56 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/03, 10:00 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/07/03, 10:03 - Hillary: That is what you have led me to believe all this time 2023/07/03, 10:03 - Kate *******: Please please 🙏 2023/07/03, 10:03 - Kate *******: You have to 2023/07/03, 10:04 - Hillary: Do you think I'm insane you have **** to me all this time 2023/07/03, 10:05 - Kate *******: I know, but am here to correct my mistake 2023/07/03, 10:05 - Kate *******: That is why? 2023/07/03, 10:09 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/03, 10:13 - Hillary: If you trust yourself to correct this. Pay the R2000 and I'll repay you 2023/07/03, 10:13 - Kate *******: It's doesn't work like that 2023/07/03, 10:14 - Kate *******: You know that already? 2023/07/03, 10:15 - Kate *******: That why am pleased with you with a honest way? 2023/07/03, 10:16 - Hillary: I don't care that it doesn't work like that but you owe me for lying to me all the way. How do you live with yourself knowing you are takings people hard warned money and lying to them. Money that was need to feed my family. I need you to fix this and I'm not going to be the one to pay you will have to 2023/07/03, 10:17 - Hillary: I think I need to get advise on this because it seem to be a **** 2023/07/03, 10:18 - Kate *******: listen woman. i really acknowledge the fact that you're just being cautious and you don't want to get ****med but i've given you my word which is actually my bond and also i promise if you could just give this a shot, you'll never regret the fact i actually persuaded 2023/07/03, 10:19 - Hillary: Do take this tone with me. You have **** and ****** my hard earned money how do you think I'm going to trust you. The way you did business with me seems like a **** 2023/07/03, 10:20 - Hillary: All I can do right now is cry and have to find way to explain to my family thar I took a chance on you and you **** to me and I've lost R13000 2023/07/03, 10:20 - Kate *******: Hey, am taking to you with an honest way 2023/07/03, 10:21 - Kate *******: Why are you acting straight to me 2023/07/03, 10:21 - Kate *******: You don't lost it 2023/07/03, 10:21 - Hillary: Because what do you expect me to act? Believe you after loosing R13000 2023/07/03, 10:21 - Kate *******: Why will I take your money 2023/07/03, 10:22 - Kate *******: You don't lose it 2023/07/03, 10:22 - Hillary: You have Iv got nothing in return for R13000 2023/07/03, 10:22 - Kate *******: What you don't understand 2023/07/03, 10:22 - Kate *******: You have returned 2023/07/03, 10:23 - Kate *******: But you don't Want to act to get the return 2023/07/03, 10:23 - Hillary: Show me the money in my account there is non so I have lost 2023/07/03, 10:23 - Kate *******: You will surely have it 2023/07/03, 10:23 - Kate *******: After this? 2023/07/03, 10:24 - Kate *******: Just R2000 that is all? 2023/07/03, 10:24 - Kate *******: Within 5 minutes time 2023/07/03, 10:24 - Hillary: I've done more than my part I've paid to You r13000 and as of now I have nothing. So that makes me believe you ****med me. 2023/07/03, 10:25 - Hillary: This is nonsense and you know it it will not be the last. 2023/07/03, 10:25 - Hillary: Nonsense 2023/07/03, 10:25 - Kate *******: Is the last 2023/07/03, 10:25 - Kate *******: Nothing more 2023/07/03, 10:25 - Kate *******: And more of it? 2023/07/03, 10:28 - Hillary: I don't believe you. 2023/07/03, 10:28 - Kate *******: That is what you always say 2023/07/03, 10:30 - Kate *******: You don't always believe me at all? 2023/07/03, 10:31 - Hillary: And you always say the same thing you promise within 5min and this will be the last. So why must I believe you you have not shown me any respect by lying to me from the start. It was suppose to be R500 for R5000 that is all but the R500 has grown to R13000 so how must I believe you. You have not proven yourself in any way. I wonder how the other clients feel have they been treated the same 2023/07/03, 10:32 - Hillary: You have not kept your word so how must I believe you 2023/07/03, 10:33 - Kate *******: I respect your old age 2023/07/03, 10:34 - Kate *******: Other clients believe that why they get profit 2023/07/03, 10:36 - Hillary: have you treated them the same kied to them for a month and the still believed you. What you should have done from the beginning is told me all the cost up front then I would have trusted you. Did you also promise them that each time they had to pay money they would get their money in 5 min? Kate really don't know how you ecept me to believe you when all you . You have not given me any reason to trust you 2023/07/03, 10:39 - Kate *******: You have to trust me because the company got your profit 2023/07/03, 10:41 - Kate *******: I won't lies to you anymore 2023/07/03, 10:42 - Kate *******: Because you will get it this time round 2023/07/03, 10:43 - Hillary: So if your company has my profit let them deduct the R2000 and pay me the difference. I know you says that can't but they can. Right now I don't care about profit all I want is my R13000 back. So that I can look after my family for the month 2023/07/03, 10:44 - Hillary: Just let them give me my funds back and they can keep the rest that is how i feel after all this lying 2023/07/03, 10:46 - Kate *******: I told you that, if you pay the R2000 and they don't pay you your profit then you will get your profit back 2023/07/03, 10:46 - Hillary: I'm sick I'm crying I'm scared to tell my husband I don't know how I'm going to make it through the month. 2023/07/03, 10:47 - Hillary: You have promised this with every payment request and not once did I see any money coming back 2023/07/03, 10:47 - Kate *******: If you pay the R2000 there is nothing to be worried about 2023/07/03, 10:47 - Kate *******: Yes I promise you that 2023/07/03, 10:48 - Kate *******: You will get it after this? 2023/07/03, 10:51 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/03, 10:53 - Hillary: PTT-20230703-WA0269.opus (file attached) 2023/07/03, 10:54 - Kate *******: Am pleased with you 2023/07/03, 10:54 - Kate *******: You won't lose it 2023/07/03, 10:54 - Hillary: I'm sure your are because you made R13000 out of me 2023/07/03, 10:55 - Kate *******: Yes 2023/07/03, 10:55 - Kate *******: You won't regret it at all? 2023/07/03, 10:57 - Hillary: I am regretting it I should never have believed you in the first place 2023/07/03, 10:57 - Kate *******: Sorry about that 2023/07/03, 10:58 - Hillary: You say this as if it was just r5 but it is R13000 2023/07/03, 10:59 - Kate *******: Just 5 minutes you will get your profit 2023/07/03, 11:07 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/03, 11:12 - Kate *******: Hello 2023/07/03, 11:17 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 12:00 - Kate *******: Are you there? 2023/07/03, 12:00 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 12:46 - Kate *******: Why are you not replying back 2023/07/03, 12:49 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 12:59 - Hillary: I'm here what do you me to say that I have not said already. I don't have the r2000 you **** to me when you said you would help so now I have evenless than I had 2023/07/03, 14:08 - Kate *******: You won't pay again 2023/07/03, 16:50 - Kate *******: Please pay the R2000 2023/07/03, 16:49 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:01 - Hillary: Why 2023/07/03, 17:02 - Kate *******: So that you can get the profit the company contract me for the remaining balance 2023/07/03, 17:03 - Kate *******: Make your deposit now 2023/07/03, 17:03 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:08 - Hillary: I'm not going to get the monet and you know it 2023/07/03, 17:08 - Kate *******: You will get it 2023/07/03, 17:11 - Kate *******: I see it with my own eyes 2023/07/03, 17:11 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:13 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:16 - Kate *******: Am not lies to you 2023/07/03, 17:18 - Hillary: That is what you have said from the beginning but it never happened. 2023/07/03, 17:19 - Kate *******: You will get it am not lies 2023/07/03, 17:19 - Kate *******: Please believe me 2023/07/03, 17:20 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:22 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:27 - Kate *******: I have good news 2023/07/03, 17:27 - Kate *******: Please be online 2023/07/03, 17:27 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:28 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:31 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 17:31 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 18:02 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 18:26 - Hillary: What good news 2023/07/03, 18:27 - Hillary: ??? 2023/07/03, 18:46 - Kate *******: They have sent some of your money to my wallet 2023/07/03, 18:48 - Hillary: So how does that help me 2023/07/03, 18:48 - Kate *******: IMG-20230703-WA0475.jpg (file attached) 2023/07/03, 18:48 - Kate *******: Here is it? 2023/07/03, 18:49 - Kate *******: I told you that they will pay it 2023/07/03, 18:49 - Hillary: Ok so now 2023/07/03, 18:49 - Kate *******: But you don't believe me at all 2023/07/03, 18:49 - Kate *******: Pay the R2000 and get it to your account immediately 2023/07/03, 18:51 - Hillary: So how does this help me I still don't have any money. If it is in you wallet take R2000 from that and pay the R2000 and take a percentage for yourself and give me some so I don't have to tell my husband 2023/07/03, 18:52 - Kate *******: No, the company doesn't allow that 2023/07/03, 18:52 - Kate *******: I already told you that 2023/07/03, 18:53 - Hillary: You have told me so many empty promise how do you expect me to believe this. 2023/07/03, 18:54 - Kate *******: You have to 2023/07/03, 18:54 - Kate *******: Am serious about it 2023/07/03, 18:54 - Hillary: If I pay the R2000 you will come up with another fee to hold my money 2023/07/03, 18:54 - Kate *******: Am not joking with you at all 2023/07/03, 18:54 - Kate *******: No I promise 2023/07/03, 18:56 - Hillary: Kate I've got no guarantees from you in the last month that actual came true. I had to trust you all the way. 2023/07/03, 18:56 - Kate *******: You already seen that 2023/07/03, 18:56 - Kate *******: Am nor playing with you at all 2023/07/03, 18:57 - Kate *******: That is more than a guarantee 2023/07/03, 18:57 - Hillary: Make a gesture give me enough of the funds to pay the R2000 then I know you are making good on your empty promises 2023/07/03, 18:58 - Kate *******: You don't want to listen to me at all 2023/07/03, 18:58 - Kate *******: That is your funds I won't lie to you 2023/07/03, 19:01 - Kate *******: Believe me 2023/07/03, 19:04 - Hillary: Kate it is not that I don't want to listen to you but nothing you have promised up to now did not happen. If I pay the R2000 you can just disappear or give me another amount to pay. I desperately want to believe that is my funds but after all the empty promises I don't feel you have not been honest with me. So how do I believe you now. If I pay you the R2000 I won't even be able to tell my husband I would have to end my life. Because that is how a feel now is just to end everything 2023/07/03, 19:06 - Kate *******: I understand you, but as I told you 2023/07/03, 19:06 - Kate *******: You won't pay any fee again 2023/07/03, 19:07 - Hillary: Kate that is what you have said everytime 2023/07/03, 19:08 - Kate *******: No, not at all 2023/07/03, 19:08 - Kate *******: Is all end 2023/07/03, 19:11 - Kate *******: You will get it, and you won't lose it 2023/07/03, 19:15 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Kate *******: Please don't be afraid 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Hillary: Kate I can't take another chance give me enough to pay the R2000 I can't take it out of the bank as I don't have it to give 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Hillary: Please I'm begging 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Hillary: More than begging 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Hillary: Please 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Hillary: Please 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Kate *******: I already told you 2023/07/03, 19:16 - Kate *******: I can't 2023/07/03, 19:17 - Kate *******: Do you want me to lose my job 2023/07/03, 19:17 - Kate *******: The company doesn't like that 2023/07/03, 19:18 - Hillary: Please help me. I don't want you to loss anything I've lost enough but I've lost everything by trusting you. 2023/07/03, 19:20 - Hillary: According to your Facebook you work for yourself so u don't understand 2023/07/03, 19:20 - Kate *******: Please you have to believe me with this 2023/07/03, 19:21 - Hillary: All I'm asking is give me just enough to pay the R2000. 2023/07/03, 19:21 - Kate *******: Do I need to take my company people there 2023/07/03, 19:22 - Kate *******: I can't 2023/07/03, 19:22 - Kate *******: I will lose my job by doing that 2023/07/03, 19:23 - Hillary: Kate please after all the empty promises and lying to me surely you can speaks to the ceo your boss to assist so that I can pay the R2000 so that you can get your commission on this deal. 2023/07/03, 19:24 - Hillary: I'm going to loose everything through this so how do you think I can believe all of this again and again. 2023/07/03, 19:24 - Kate *******: I have already try my best for they to pay you 2023/07/03, 19:24 - Kate *******: But they assured me that after this 2023/07/03, 19:24 - Kate *******: You have to believe it 2023/07/03, 19:25 - Hillary: If you were in my shoes after this long deceit would you believe Mr. I don't think you would. I thought you had it in your wallet 2023/07/03, 19:25 - Kate *******: I know you don't want your husband to know that why am pleased with you 2023/07/03, 19:26 - Kate *******: Yes, they have the login details 2023/07/03, 19:26 - Kate *******: Because they work with it 2023/07/03, 19:26 - Kate *******: That is why I can't make a move 2023/07/03, 19:27 - Kate *******: So you have to just pay it don't be afraid of losing it 2023/07/03, 19:29 - Hillary: Kate I have paid half of thr commission so I am entitled to at least half of my profit. But I'm not asking you to get the give me half I'm asking for R2000 to pay for the rest 2023/07/03, 19:30 - Kate *******: I know you have to complete it 2023/07/03, 19:30 - Kate *******: Before anything 2023/07/03, 20:07 - Kate *******: Hello 2023/07/03, 20:08 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 20:08 - Kate *******: Please pay it 2023/07/03, 20:09 - Kate *******: Let make it work 2023/07/03, 20:17 - Hillary: Kate I've got no guarantee that if I make a plan that I'll get it as I said before after all the empty promises I don't think I am capable of trusting your company. Surely if they have my profit and they have received part of the commission they can release some of the funds 2023/07/03, 20:52 - Kate *******: Why we they release it when you have not pay the full balance 2023/07/03, 20:53 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 20:54 - Kate *******: You are not trying 2023/07/03, 21:09 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/03, 22:11 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/04, 07:08 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0019.jpg (file attached) It is not that I'm not trying I told you I don't have it so here is proof you took my last for a empty promise that is why I'm asking for you to help get the R2000 so that I can get the other profit. I'm desperate for your help 2023/07/04, 08:20 - Kate *******: Lol 😆 2023/07/04, 08:21 - Hillary: What are you laughing at 2023/07/04, 08:22 - Kate *******: Am not a child 2023/07/04, 08:23 - Kate *******: Pay the fee and get your profit 2023/07/04, 08:23 - Kate *******: It's seen that you are joking with us 2023/07/04, 08:26 - Hillary: Your the one that has been lying from the start not me. You are the one joking you think after loosing R13000 I still have money to loose. Kate what is wrong with you? You take people's hard earned money and tell them lies. Even after you have put them in trouble you still think what you are doing has mo effect 2023/07/04, 08:28 - Hillary: You say you are not lying but you are giving empty promises. You keep stating you are not lying but you are. 2023/07/04, 08:28 - Hillary: I can't believe you distort people's lives and you think it is right to continue 2023/07/04, 08:29 - Kate *******: It's seen that you don't need your profit anymore 2023/07/04, 08:29 - Kate *******: Am going to send it to the company back 2023/07/04, 08:29 - Kate *******: With 20 minutes 2023/07/04, 08:30 - Kate *******: If you decide to play with us I will send it back 2023/07/04, 08:33 - Hillary: Kate I thought you did not have access. Someone else had access.Again you where making empty promises. I'm not playing you are. God help me. I don't know what om going to do. If you can send it to your company bank you could trf the R2000 so I could pay you to get at least my money back you can have the profit I just need my money back 2023/07/04, 08:35 - Hillary: You have just threatened me. I know now that your intention was to steel my money you had no intent on giving me anything just empty promises. 2023/07/04, 08:39 - Kate *******: I will send it back you don't value your profit at all? 2023/07/04, 08:42 - Hillary: You don't value people's lives. If you where a honest person you would give me my money back you have made enough profit more than what I gave you take that and give me what I gave you 2023/07/04, 08:44 - Hillary: Kate you made empty promises so i have no reason to believe you will give me any money. After all this you still except me to believe I will get anything even though I believed you for a long time believe you are a Christian as you said from the beginning. 2023/07/04, 08:45 - Kate *******: Yes, am a Christian of course 2023/07/04, 08:45 - Hillary: I'm also tired of empty promises. You made it clear now that I was never going to get anything. You we just playing with me and my families lives 2023/07/04, 08:46 - Kate *******: You will get it 2023/07/04, 08:46 - Kate *******: But you don't want to pay the fee that all 2023/07/04, 08:46 - Hillary: I'm glad you believe that you are because what you have just done is not Christian like. You just threatened me 2023/07/04, 08:47 - Kate *******: How wish you had pay the fee you could have received it by now 2023/07/04, 08:47 - Hillary: I've paid R13000 for nothing 2023/07/04, 08:47 - Kate *******: I don't do anything 2023/07/04, 08:49 - Kate *******: Yes, that why I believe that this one will come 2023/07/04, 08:49 - Kate *******: Because I already received from it 2023/07/04, 08:49 - Kate *******: You still don't want to believe that all 2023/07/04, 08:50 - Hillary: I have no faith at the moment I'm devastated I can't believe I have trust you 2023/07/04, 08:52 - Kate *******: That is why you send me your account you have transfer the money out right 2023/07/04, 08:52 - Hillary: Like I said if you where going to give me anything uou would have helped me with the R2000 or would have given me some of my profit for the R2000 that I paid for part of the commission 2023/07/04, 08:53 - Hillary: I have no money to transfer out that is the honest truth 2023/07/04, 08:54 - Kate *******: You have lies and I have lies 2023/07/04, 08:54 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0111.jpg (file attached) Here is the last transactions see for yourself 2023/07/04, 08:54 - Kate *******: If you can't believe me I can't also believe you 2023/07/04, 08:55 - Hillary: I don't have lies I have never **** to you that I promise 2023/07/04, 08:55 - Kate *******: Hey you have the money stop lies 2023/07/04, 08:55 - Kate *******: You lie 2023/07/04, 08:56 - Kate *******: So if you decide to not to pay the remaining balance I won't distribute you 2023/07/04, 08:57 - Kate *******: Because after today I will send it back that you don't need the profit 2023/07/04, 09:00 - Hillary: Kate do tou think this is the right thing to do 2023/07/04, 09:01 - Kate *******: Ok, let make it honest with you 2023/07/04, 09:01 - Hillary: Even if I got the money from someone you would not give me cent 2023/07/04, 09:02 - Kate *******: Why we I not do that 2023/07/04, 09:02 - Kate *******: I must give you your profit 2023/07/04, 09:02 - Kate *******: You have waited for this for long 2023/07/04, 09:07 - Kate *******: Hello 2023/07/04, 09:07 - Kate *******: Did you receive email from the company 2023/07/04, 09:07 - Kate *******: I just inform 2023/07/04, 09:07 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/04, 09:08 - Kate *******: Please check and tell me what is it about? 2023/07/04, 09:10 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0166.jpg (file attached) Here it is they say you have the money 2023/07/04, 09:11 - Kate *******: Yes I do 2023/07/04, 09:11 - Kate *******: I send you the screenshot of it yesterday 2023/07/04, 09:11 - Kate *******: But you don't look it to be anything 2023/07/04, 09:18 - Kate *******: ? 2023/07/04, 09:19 - Kate *******: I will send you the company bank details to deposit the R2000 2023/07/04, 09:20 - Kate *******: And after that you will send you your bank details where I will send you the R90,000 first 2023/07/04, 09:20 - Kate *******: Because you will recieve the remaining balance 2023/07/04, 09:27 - Kate *******: Missed voice call 2023/07/04, 09:32 - Hillary: Kate how can I believe you. All you have done is give me empty promises up to now. I told you from the beginning is that I was afraid I won't get any funds back and each time you promised but nothing came of that So I would have to lend this money again to pay you but I got no guarantee that I will get anything back. How do you except me to believe you after all of this. I would love to believe you but how 2023/07/04, 09:33 - Hillary: Kate give me something to believe you because I really do want you believe you. 2023/07/04, 09:37 - Kate *******: The company also told you 2023/07/04, 09:38 - Kate *******: So why we I lie and the company will also lie 2023/07/04, 09:38 - Kate *******: The money is already in my account 2023/07/04, 09:41 - Hillary: Exactly in your account but you can't help me. All you need to do is give me R2000 then I can pay to get some money back. 2023/07/04, 09:42 - Kate *******: You have it 2023/07/04, 09:42 - Kate *******: Pay it 2023/07/04, 09:42 - Kate *******: And get your profit immediately 2023/07/04, 09:44 - Kate *******: Let me get the bank details from the company 2023/07/04, 09:45 - Hillary: What banking details 2023/07/04, 09:46 - Kate *******: Where you will pay the R2000 balance 2023/07/04, 10:07 - Hillary: Kate what guarantee so I have that you will give me money if I get the R2000 2023/07/04, 10:11 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0194.jpg (file attached) The bank is coming to fetch my car 2023/07/04, 10:15 - Kate *******: I guarantee you the quality of your profit 2023/07/04, 10:15 - Kate *******: I understand you, you will be able to get your car 2023/07/04, 10:17 - Hillary: Kate you have said this before. What if I pay and you don't pay me.how do I pay the monies back 2023/07/04, 10:18 - Hillary: I'm in a meeting so I'm not looking at whatsapp all the time 2023/07/04, 10:18 - Kate *******: I will take your money back 2023/07/04, 10:20 - Hillary: What do you mean 2023/07/04, 10:20 - Kate *******: I will pay the fee 2023/07/04, 10:20 - Kate *******: I promise you that 2023/07/04, 10:24 - Kate *******: Please make your deposit 2023/07/04, 10:24 - Kate *******: African Bank: Account number:20091660738 Account holder:Liam Arendse Branch code:430000 Account type:my world account 2023/07/04, 10:24 - Kate *******: Please make immediately payment 2023/07/04, 10:27 - Hillary: Can't talk now. What's up? 2023/07/04, 10:27 - Kate *******: Please your deposit 2023/07/04, 10:27 - Hillary: Kate can I take your word that I'll get the money 2023/07/04, 10:27 - Hillary: No other excuses 2023/07/04, 10:28 - Kate *******: Yes I promise 2023/07/04, 10:28 - Kate *******: Yes 2023/07/04, 10:29 - Hillary: God I'm scared 2023/07/04, 10:29 - Hillary: I've lost so much already 2023/07/04, 10:30 - Kate *******: You won't lose it 2023/07/04, 10:31 - Hillary: How long before I'll see the money 2023/07/04, 10:32 - Kate *******: Let say about 2 hours 2023/07/04, 10:35 - Hillary: Just now you said 5min now another story that is why in scared 2023/07/04, 10:36 - Kate *******: I need to trade it into rand to be able to send you 2023/07/04, 10:40 - Kate *******: ?? 2023/07/04, 10:43 - Kate *******: Hello 2023/07/04, 10:44 - Hillary: What reference 2023/07/04, 10:45 - Hillary: I'm going to do this but if this does not come through I've lost evrything 2023/07/04, 10:47 - Kate *******: There is no reference 2023/07/04, 10:47 - Kate *******: No, you won't lose it 2023/07/04, 10:49 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0292.jpg (file attached) Here now you have it. I hope I can trust you because as ov today I've lost everything if this does not come through 2023/07/04, 10:49 - Hillary: PTT-20230704-WA0293.opus (file attached) 2023/07/04, 10:50 - Kate *******: You will 2023/07/04, 10:50 - Hillary: Ok so now I wait for you 2023/07/04, 10:50 - Kate *******: Send me your bank account 2023/07/04, 10:52 - Hillary: You deleted this message 2023/07/04, 10:55 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0302.jpg (file attached) 2023/07/04, 10:55 - Hillary: Here is the letter from the bank confirming bank details 2023/07/04, 10:56 - Kate *******: Ok 2023/07/04, 14:51 - Hillary: Hi Kate what is happening now? 2023/07/04, 15:36 - Kate *******: Did you receive any email from the company 2023/07/04, 18:05 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0769.jpg (file attached) Yes for more money. I told you you were all empty promises. 2023/07/04, 18:07 - Hillary: Again. You promised and again you have done me out of another R2000 so all in all R15000.00 well done you go girl. 2023/07/04, 18:07 - Hillary: IMG-20230704-WA0769.jpg (file attached) 2023/07/04, 19:05 - Hillary: We're are you 2023/07/04, 19:06 - Hillary: No voice now. You said that you would get my money. Now you are not answering me. You said you would take my money and you did. e-mails from company From: Binary tradefxpro <binarytradefxpro@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 8:40 PM To: hillarypotgieter@gmail.com Subject: Good Evening Mrs Hillary Joy Potgieter According to the management the signal fee is a once off payment, once paid your signal fee status will be updated immediately to paid with the exact paid amount on the icon in your account The company buys signals and it’s a compulsory payment that can’t be skipped. Thank you for choosing BINARYTRADEFXPRO From: Binary tradefxpro <binarytradefxpro@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 9:00 AM To: hillarypotgieter <hillarypotgieter@gmail.com> Subject: Good morning Mrs Potgieter Am here to inform you that half of your profit as been paid into Kate kruse account. But you need to pay the remaining balance of R2000 for you to get half Thanks you for choosing BINARYTRADEFXPRO.COM.com From: Binary tradefxpro <binarytradefxpro@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 1:34 PM To: hillarypotgieter <hillarypotgieter@gmail.com> Subject: Dear Hillary Joy Potgieter ... $Dear LIZELLE REYNOLDS... $10,800 (USD) is on it way to your Capitec in 5 minutes time. You are requested to make a deposit of $650 (USD) only, into your Live Trading Account for Brokerage Percentage Fee which is 25% of your $10,800 (USD) profits. The deposit has to be made to your Live Trading Account immediately to complete your withdrawal process. Once the deposit has been confirmed successfully your withdrau account within the next 5 minutes after your deposit. Thank you for choosing BINARYTRADEFXPRO They do not respond any question with regards to payouts. The company on sends email to request monies. Kate does not explain the full process of supposedly getting your profits from your investment. The Ceo sent me a whatsapp from cellphone number 0783990018 telling that she hears Ive got a problem with their company. I responded and she said she would get back to me. See her whatsapp below 2023/06/08, 08:05 - Messages and calls are end-to-end encrypted. No one outside of this chat, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them. Tap to learn more. 2023/06/08, 08:05 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Hallo 2023/06/08, 08:06 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: How are you 2023/06/08, 08:06 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Am the CEO of the Binary trade? 2023/06/08, 08:06 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: It's seems that you have a problem with our company? 2023/06/08, 08:07 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: What is it, all about? 2023/06/08, 08:08 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Are you there? 2023/06/08, 08:12 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Missed voice call 2023/06/09, 01:10 - Hillary: Hi I joined with Kate the initial add said pay R500 and make R5500 in 48 hours. Well then I got a mail advising that I need to pay R2000 for system transactions. Which I did. Then I got another mail advise I need to pay R5000 for signal fees and my profit will be r30 000.00. Which I duly did. So then another mail came stating that I needed to pay $160 usd to balance brokerage. In that mail I'm advised that that will be the last payment. And I get my profit. Which I duly did today. Now once again Kate advise me I need to pay another R2000 withdrawal fees to get my money. So now I have paid out r11000. 00 and I still don't have a cent of my money or my supposed profit. In none of the initial correspondence was I told about these fees up front. Everything I get advised me that fund will be paid into my bank account in 60mins. Today I was told to download trust wallet and Kate assisted me to get into it and I can see values but it is in a watch wallet only. So now I need to pay another R2000 to get my monies. I was very desperate to make extra funds as my husband has cancer and I have a brother with brain damage which I support. I thought this would be a easy way to bring in some extra cash but all it has done thus far is use every cent I had to survive for the month. I don't have another R2000 for withdrawal fees. I now have R500 in my bank to survive for the month. Did I know from the beginning it would cost me R11000. I should just have kept my R11000 and then at least I could at least pay some of my debt and still have money for food. I am really disappointed as to how this has been handeled. I don't know if you can assist. I need my monies urgently and I don't have R2000 withdrawal fees. If my winnings is R30 000.00 then let them deduct it from that. Thank you for getting I. Touch with me. Hillary 2023/06/09, 08:40 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Ok, I understand everything you said, I will get back to you soon? 2023/06/09, 10:15 - Hillary: Morning thank you 2023/06/09, 18:41 - Hillary: Hi can you give me any feedback on this. 2023/06/09, 20:59 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Ok thank 😊 2023/06/09, 21:08 - Hillary: What does ok thank mean. Am I going to get funds or not 2023/06/09, 21:12 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Yes, of course 2023/06/09, 21:12 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: You must get it, after this payment 2023/06/09, 21:43 - Hillary: I'm not going to make the payment I have been **** to so many times. For me to trust you guys again you will have to do something giving a guarantee that I will receive the money in my bank account as promised from the beginning or pay some of the money at least r10 000.00 and then I can pay the r2000. Else I'm going to take the matter further. Because I can't find any details about your company on the web. So it seems to be a ****. Send me your company registration information So that I can verify that you are a true broker 2023/06/09, 21:45 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Why we you say it's a **** 2023/06/09, 21:46 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: This is not a **** at all? 2023/06/10, 07:44 - Hillary: If it was in my wallet account I should be able to with draw it. It is in a view only wallet. If it is in my wallet your company should have no further hold on my wallet. 2023/06/10, 10:35 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: No, you have to pay for the withdraw fee before anything else 2023/06/11, 08:51 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Hi 2023/06/11, 08:52 - Ceo Bindary Trade Investments: Have you been able to pay the money? 2023/06/11, 09:18 - Hillary: Nope I've told you I Kate I browed the money for the R3500 and now I can't anyone to help me pay the R2000 so I don't know what I'm going to do because the trowel R11000 into this any have received nothing in return. |When trying to get information from Kate with regards to the company she refuses to give information. I now realize that I was desperate to get extra funds as my husband and daughter that have cancer that I believed Kate's lies. There is a lot of personal information here but I had to disclose this as to warn people not to trust these people.
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